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Facing what-ifs and if-onlys in the wake of suicide
Amarillo Globe-News ^ | 1/7/2006 | Patsy Rae Dawson

Posted on 02/16/2006 5:38:25 AM PST by FNU LNU

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To: mariabush

Where's the denial?


21 posted on 02/16/2006 6:32:24 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: buck61

Send them to the webhealing site, child loss page. There they can communicate with others who walk this lonely journey. Also they could find a local meeting place for Compassionate Friends or Bereaved Parents of the USA.

http://www.webhealing.com


22 posted on 02/16/2006 6:34:46 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
I agree. My life is in shambles. I wish my problems would disappear. But they don't.

I view death as it will eventually happen and there is no need to rush it.

23 posted on 02/16/2006 6:35:56 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
Believe me! I have been in several horrible situations to which I did not see any hope, but miracles do happen. There is a scripture verse, that says that the things that happen to us the Devil means for evil, but that God will use for good.

Don't give up.
24 posted on 02/16/2006 6:36:32 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Galveston Grl
Praying really does give you wisdom, ideas, energy and hope. Good luck!

I used to believe that. Use to pray daily for years. But things kept getting worse the more I prayed. So I said what is the use. I only pray for the well being of my children. All else is a crap shoot.

25 posted on 02/16/2006 6:36:50 AM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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To: Hoodlum91

Well not calling sucide what it is. A very selfish act.


26 posted on 02/16/2006 6:38:30 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

PLEASE talk to a doctor or a social worker or your community health department about depression screening.

This can be caused by a chemical imbalance and it can be helped!!! You do not have to live with such hopelessness.
God Bless.

In the meantime, exercise, get out into the sun every day, take a good multivitamin, and read up on SAM-e and fish oil as natural aids for mood support. And find a way to laugh from your gut. You can do it.


27 posted on 02/16/2006 6:39:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mariabush

You obviously haven't ever walked in these shoes. May you never. Meanwhile may your shadow not darken the paths of those who have, and do.

God Bless.


28 posted on 02/16/2006 6:41:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mariabush

It's a desperate act. There was still nothing in the statement you replied to that was denial.

Apparently, you have never been touched by depression or suicide. Consider yourself blessed.


29 posted on 02/16/2006 6:42:29 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Hoodlum91

I suffer from horrible depression, but I know that almost all of it comes from looking at self. My Grandmother had a great remedy for depression OTHERS.


30 posted on 02/16/2006 6:49:16 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush

And what's wrong with loking at self? No one else will.

As for others being a remedy, I'm glad that worked for your grandmother. Frankly, I find others far more depressing.


31 posted on 02/16/2006 6:51:28 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Hoodlum91
Suit your self. Depressed people are usually very negative.
32 posted on 02/16/2006 6:53:41 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

I will pray for you, then. Starting tonight. And you are right that life has no guarentees and it is very frustrating when bad times come. Keep moving your feet, letting go of the past and thinking about what you want in the future.

When my dad lost our mom, he was terribly lost and crushed. He always thought he would be the first to go. He started drinking because she was not there to tell him to stop. Everything came down on his head.

He finally stopped drinking and every day, he tried to think of something he was grateful for. He would thank God for something good visited upon his children or grandchildren if he could not think of something good about his own life that day. Slowly but surely, he lifted out of the dumps, rediscovered himself separate from our mom and began living again.


33 posted on 02/16/2006 6:55:58 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: mariabush
We listened to country-and-western music together while I drove...

DING! We have a winner...

34 posted on 02/16/2006 6:56:45 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Hoodlum91

You're absolutely right. It infuriates me when people ignore the pain that people go through and simply call them names and refuse to try to understand.

In 2001, one of my best friends from high school committed suicide. By the time of his death, we weren't that close anymore (for no real reason other than just being in different places in our lives) but it was still a very difficult thing to go through.


35 posted on 02/16/2006 7:06:23 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: DCPatriot

Country music will depress anyone. I had a friend in the business, and she said that her ex-husband wrote his best songs after they had had a fight.


36 posted on 02/16/2006 7:08:05 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush
Selfish act? How about some compassion for these poor souls?

IMO, people who commit suicide are in such horrible pain they truly feel the only way to stop it, is to take their own life. It's desperation, not selfishness.

I can only imagine the emotional or physical suffering these people have endured that makes their life not worth living anymore.

sw

37 posted on 02/16/2006 7:13:58 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: silverleaf
What is this person's state with God?

My own studies on this have led me to believe that if one never had a true understanding of the Almighty, or didn't consciously reject the opportunity to gain one, that person won't be judged as harshly as someone who did. Lots of folks have died who never had access to a Bible or a preacher. It would be unjust to condemn them simply because a missionary or Holy man was unable to reach them.

As I read the Bible, there is only one unforgivable sin. And it ain't suicide.

38 posted on 02/16/2006 7:28:47 AM PST by Freebird Forever (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.)
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To: mariabush
When a person becomes so distraught, confused and depressed that the idea of suicide is capable of overriding the animal instinct of self-preservation, "selfishness" has absolutely nothing to do with the equation.

Suicides almost always occur when desperation drives the human mind to mental defect.

 

39 posted on 02/16/2006 7:36:11 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Women were put on Earth to look hot. Men are here to be stupid about it.)
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To: Freebird Forever

Several weeks ago one of the parish priests made this point to an adult education group, but he was rather clumsy about it. He fell apart (imho) when one person questioned whether muslims, who have access to knowledge about Christ and refuse to accept Him, would be judged for that. The priest stammered and stuttered a lot and basically said that all good people of all faiths go to heaven.

So gee, Father, why are we spending so much money on missions then?

I feel like the fallback is the words of Christ Himself (book of John): "I came not to judge the world but to save it".

We each make choices while we are here in human form. Then every soul, having grown or not by those choices, has its own experience with God and he sorts it out, not us and not our priest/pastor and not our neighbors.


40 posted on 02/16/2006 7:42:10 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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