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To: Fred Nerks
Fred, You are 100% correct. Much of this was manufactured by Imams trying to use the cartoons months after they were originally published to stir up hate. For all we know, this particular Imam was trying to out-fanaticize a rival Imam to score points with Al-qaeda heirarchy. There may be more Mafia than Moslem at work here. In the end, isn't this religion being used for political purposes with horrific results? If we don't believe that Moslems can live in peace with all the rest of us, then why are we democratizing Iraq (quite successfully) and not simply herding the lot of them into gas chambers? It's precisely because Moslems can live in harmony with others that we are engaged in this at all. Look at our recent success in Iraq. A lot of it has to do with the locals turning on Al-Qaeda and tipping us off about there locations. Are you suggesting that's done by Christians? If you think I'm a troll, then check out the rest of my blog.
62 posted on 02/13/2006 6:14:50 PM PST by ktcat
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To: ktcat

Right, you get to live on FR for another five minutes, LOL! It's islam that's on my hitlist, not all muslims, who are after all's said, the major victims!

Being required to emulate a warlord, a pillager, a pirate, a mass murdering killer - purveyed by islam as devine and sinless, the most perfect man on earth since then and forever is bound to turn a few heads toward terrorism!

Of course all mohammadans aren't running around with swords beheading their neighbours, some are too old, too sick, to young or too weak and cowardly; but all of them have it beaten into their thick skulls to see mohammad as a man who could do no wrong, and this was the result:

Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)

The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)

The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians - modern Sudanese (650)

The Jihad against pagan Berbers - North Africans (650 to 700)

The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)

The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)

The Jihad against Franks - modern French (720 to 732)

The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)

The Jihad against Chinese (751)

The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)

The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)

The Crusade against Jihad (1096 – 1291 ongoing)

The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)

The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)

The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)

The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)

The Jihad against Rumania (1350 to 1699)

The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)

The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)

The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)

The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)

The Jihad against Albania (1332 - 1853)

The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)

The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)

The Jihad against Austrians (1683)

Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)

The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)

The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)

The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Germans (1945 onwards)

The Jihad against the Indians (1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)

The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)

The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)

The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)

The Global Jihad today (2001 – ongoing)

The War on Terror against Jihad today (2001– ongoing)


The Vision for the post-Islamic (and post-religious) world...

http://www.historyofjihad.org/


65 posted on 02/13/2006 6:38:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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To: ktcat; Fred Nerks
It's precisely because Moslems can live in harmony with others that we are engaged in this at all.

The question in my mind is not about muslims, but how true islam can co-exist with other faiths, as it would depend on how much of it's rules (sharia - blasphemy, dhimmitude etc) are introduced or are in conflict with civil codes.

When they introduce elements of sharia in their nations or call for it in the west to protect "blasphemy," bear in mind what they consider blasphemy and "offensive to islam":

Koran, (YUSUFALI)

005.017: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

005.051 : O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

005.072 YUSUFALI: They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

005.073 : They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

009.030 : The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Slippery slope into dhimmitude... Next they'll be asking for an increase in payments of jizra from the dhimmis as non-payment will "offend" them and more rioting will follow, and then move onto making new demands so we can fit in to their world view...

MEMRI, September 26, 2002

Al-Rahmah mosque in Mecca, Sheikh Marzouq Salem Al-Ghamdi spoke against interreligious harmony:

"For some time, we have been hearing calls for bringing the religions together, and for unification of the religions. This call is aimed at uniting falsehood with truth, good with abomination… The Jews and Christians are infidels, enemies of Allah, his Messenger, and the believers. They deny and curse Allah and his Messenger… How can we draw near to these infidels?… They deny even the messengers sent to them. They do not believe in Moses, they do not believe in Jesus - because if they really believed in them, they would join Islam, because every prophet heralded to his nation the coming of the Prophet Muhammad and the need to believe in him …"

"If the infidels live among the Muslims, in accordance with the conditions set out by the Prophet -there is nothing wrong with it provided they pay Jizya to the Islamic treasury.Other conditions are… that they do not renovate a church or a monastery, do not rebuild ones that were destroyed, that they feed for three days any Muslim who passes by their homes… that they rise when a Muslim wishes to sit, that they do not imitate Muslims in dress and speech, nor ride horses, nor own swords, nor arm themselves with any kind of weapon; that they do not sell wine, do not show the cross, do not ring church bells, do not raise their voices during prayer, that they shave their hair in front so as to make them easily identifiable, do not incite anyone against the Muslims, and do not strike a Muslim… If they violate these conditions, they have no protection."

Note this is no maverick, he's a State approved imam in one of islams holiest places.

If we don't believe that Moslems can live in peace with all the rest of us, then why are we democratizing Iraq (quite successfully)

Attempting to exploit the many divisions within the ummah and helping turn the course of the civil war within islam to our (and their own) long term advantage, perhaps?

Do you understand what the self declared "true believers" believe islam is destined for? The ummah splitting into 73 sects only one being true, the others 72 apostates to be sent into the fire? The ideological reasoning behind their inter sect wars from the time of the Khawarij splintering off. Nobody gets muslims killed better than their own.

and not simply herding the lot of them into gas chambers?

Say what? I knew it wouldn't be long before someone invoked something that relates to Nazis as a last resort to try and prop up a weak argument. *sigh*

Note to all, you simply must stop taking debating tips from the likes of Dave Barry:

How to Win Arguments, As It Were

(see the end of that article)

67 posted on 02/13/2006 6:56:13 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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