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To: Cobra64

Uh, yes I have smart aleck. I'm an electrical engineer, and I know that the net energy savings from just pumping electrical into the grid far outweighs drilling, piping or shipping, cracking and refining, and delivering fuel. Disseminating electrical energy over a unified (relatively) grid fed from a point source is more efficient, as are electric motors (85% or better typical efficiency, vs greater heat and entropy losses in internal combustion). I'm simply asking why they don't go the plug in route for city driving, letting you save your gas for long-haul trips.


88 posted on 02/13/2006 1:29:23 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: domenad
(85% or better typical efficiency, vs greater heat and entropy losses in internal combustion)

That is correct, however, you have the same losses at the power plant that is powered by hydrocarbons. Electric cars are good if the source of power for the turbines that generate the electricity is nuclear or renewable source. Otherwise to get a unit of electricity to the motor powering the car will require more hydrocarbon fuel than that in a gasoline powered car. Question? What is the conversion efficiency in a modern power plant as to turning 1 unit of energy into 1 unit of electricity. What is the power loss in the transmission lines. What is loss in charging the battery? What is the loss when we turn the stored chemical energy of the battery into electrical power for the motor. The motor itself I think you stated is 85% efficient.

109 posted on 02/13/2006 2:53:58 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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