Oh ... come ... on. That's totally different than what I was talking about. Give me a break.
If you went to a Catholic school, then you are very much aware of the point I'm trying to make. A student does not disrespect the teacher. Period.
When I went to school, any disrespect was handled right then and there by the teacher, the punishment commensurate with the infraction. Then it was over.
Parents used to trust the judgment of the teachers and the school principal. You take away their ability to use their judgment, you get zero tolerance.
You were talking about a kid who pointed a chicken finger at a teacher and said "bang bang". That's no different from what we did when I was a kid. No nun in our school would have smacked us for that as you advocated.
In the schools I went to respect was earned. But the nuns and teachers weren't bureaucrats or union members whining about how hard their job was. The nuns and teachers didn't run to the cops if a kid talked back or got into a fight.
I was never in a government school, and except for one 5 week stint, neither were my kids, nor are any of my grandchildren in a government school. When my kids go to school about some situation with one of my grandchildren, they are treated with respect, and like the customer rather than like they are a bother.
When the adults act irresponsibly, they invite disrespect. How much respect do the classroom bureaucrat and the administration bureaucrat deserve in the chicken finger case? Not very much in my opinion.
Of course, the parents deserve much of the blame. They dump their kids in socialized government schools instead of stepping up and taking care of their responsibility. They are no different from the people who are in government housing or on any other kind of government assistance.