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To: Washi
"Here is a link to a previous, but similar, story on FreeRepublic. I'm curious to know if you agree with the school's action in this case."

I do, but for a different reason. Disrespecting a teacher entitles a student to suspension in my book, followed by a spanking at home by the parents to emphasize the point. A spitball directed at the teacher, a tack on their chair, foul language, talking back, physical contact of any sort, or pointing at them and saying, "Bang bang, you're dead" is grounds in my book.

Or, three whacks across an open palm with a half-inch diameter 42" wooden pointer by the teacher is also acceptable. (Yes, I went to Catholic grade school taught by nuns.) But, since that is no longer allowed, a three day suspension is what it has to be.

Too bad. I thought the old way was better. At a number of levels.

571 posted on 02/14/2006 11:47:21 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
pointing at them and saying, "Bang bang, you're dead" is grounds in my book.

Or, three whacks across an open palm with a half-inch diameter 42" wooden pointer by the teacher is also acceptable. (Yes, I went to Catholic grade school taught by nuns.) But, since that is no longer allowed, a three day suspension is what it has to be.

You have to be joking about this. Back in the days when I was in Catholic school, Father Vogel frequently would have a finger gunfight with one of us on the playground. We all wanted to be Tom Mix and would try to out draw him with our finger guns. He always beat us, so three of us ambushed him one day as he came out the door. None of us got hit with a pointer for “shooting” him with finger guns.

Nor did we get charged with terrorists threats for singing to the tune of The Battle Hymn of the Republic, “My eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school; We tortured all the teachers and we broke the Golden Rule . . .”

Nor did we get in trouble for drawing pictures of killing Nazis and Japs. Even the kids in socialized schools didn’t get in trouble for those things in those days. The bureaucrats in the classrooms and the administration had more sense than their counterparts today.

Nor did the nuns or Father Vogel have to call the cops for every little thing. Today the bureaucrats call the cops and have kids arrested for little things like fist fights. In 7th grade two alter boys got caught drinking the Communion wine. Sister Mary took them to Father Vogel and he never even called their parents. He sure didn’t call the cops for underage drinking and theft of church property. He just made them hand oil all the pews in the church. It took them a whole week of after school and all day one Saturday.

Later in Lutheran school, things weren’t much different. Pastor Gresser and Mr. Hauptman, the principal, never called the cops. Most of our kids were from the inner city and it was rare for any of us to even get hit. Although I have to admit, I got as many swats on the hand as anyone in my class.

Two of us brought water guns to school one day that looked real if you didn’t get too close. Mrs. Lang sent us to Mr. Hauptman’s office and we had too eat lunch there for the rest of the week, but at the end of the day he gave us our guns back and let us take them home. If things then were like they are now in the socialized government schools, we might still be in jail. At the very least we’d have police records.

Hell, I can’t think of a single boy I was in school with who wouldn’t have a police record if we were in socialized schools today.

Today’s classroom bureaucrats and the administration bureaucrats would have never made it in the schools I went to. I can just imagine how fast Father Vogel or Pastor Gresser would have fired the principal in this story. My guess is Father Vogel would have dragged him out of the school by the scruff of the neck.

584 posted on 02/14/2006 5:13:27 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: robertpaulsen
I agree that children today have far less respect for adults. I agree that it is primarily because of a lack of discipline. However, this kid was not punished because he displayed a lack of respect, he was punished because of a zero-tolerance guidline and because of a "look-a-like gun." It wasn't a gun (niether was the sugar a drug) but he portrayed it as such (just as the kid did with the sugar.)

So if you support zero-tolerence rules for look-a-like drugs, it would seem to me to be hypocritical not to support zero-tolerence rules for look-a-like guns. Even if the "gun" is a piece of chicken.

585 posted on 02/14/2006 5:57:20 PM PST by Washi
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