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To: Mark Felton

The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. - RAH


10 posted on 02/10/2006 11:23:52 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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11 posted on 02/10/2006 11:35:01 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Cold fusion -- teach the controversy!)
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To: balrog666

"The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. - RAH"

How does one even begin to talk with someone who says such things as the above? Any opposing view has already be labeled "preposterous", "absurd", and "without a shred of evidence". I think it is extremely arrogant of balrog666 to make a blanket pronouncement that every believer's faith in God (the Biblical One) is established on pure fantasy without any basis of historical, scientific, philosophical, or logical evidence - and, then fails to give any evidence or argument (other than his/her say-so) to support his/her thesis.


14 posted on 02/10/2006 12:31:49 PM PST by maplegrover (Nevada Norm)
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To: balrog666
"Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it,..."

Science cannot prove that the soul or love exists either. The Holy Spirit is as real as any love or any passion ever experienced by man.

Scientists who have accepted Christ and received the gift of the Holy Spirit accept the truth of Jesus Christ, without doubt! It has been proven to some of the greatest scientists the world has ever known, including Sir Isaac Newton the man who invented the scientific process.

I have been a scientist and engineer for over 22 years. Like you I thought all religion was bunkem fantasies to prop up weak characters.

I was dead wrong. When my wife (who is a Jewish mathematician) and I tried an experiment, with sincerity, one night, after seeing the movei The Passion (and hearing the exact words of Christ) we asked Jesus Christ to prove he was real and show us. We asked Him to come into our hearts and let us know the truth.

My wife and I experienced a true epiphany. We could feel the energy of 'something" come into our beings, unlike anything we have every experienced in our lives. It was like electricity. She immediately broke down and wept, shivering with emotions of joy, love and relief.

For me it was not quite so profund, but it was fantastic. It is different for everybody, just like love is different for everybody.

I was 42 years old when this happened to me. I had previously already rejected Catholicism when I was 16. I thought I knew it all.

I was dead wrong. So are you. But no man can convince you, only the words of Christ can do that. There are no scientific measuring instruments we can use to measure love, or measure the presence of the Spirit within our souls.

Souls also cannot be proven to exist by science. But like love and the Spirit, every sense and every bit of reasoning I possess confirm the truth of God and Jesus Christ.

No man can convince another man to be a Christian. That is why, unlike every other religion, you do not become a member by acts of faith, you become a member by simply accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour and in return you are gifted with the presence of the Holy Spirit which will forever change your life.

For me it is not a matter of faith. It has been proven true, to me, and my wife, with as much justification as any scientific theory or proof.

As a scientist I believe one day science will indeed affirm the existence of God and the ability of God to intervene in our 4-dimensional universe through a force, or spirit, perhaps from the other 6-dimensions that science affirms as real but are completely unexplored and not understood.

keep an open mind. Without precise tuning of at least 12 universal constants we would not exist, nor would our universe exist as anything more than a plasma. Not even hydrogen atoms would exist.

15 posted on 02/10/2006 12:33:12 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: balrog666

Good summary of government schooling.


16 posted on 02/10/2006 12:34:46 PM PST by Rippin
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To: balrog666
Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. - RAH

Rah was a pretty powerful god you know. I wouldn't call him too unproductive. :) Then again, SG 1 got him pretty easily.

34 posted on 02/10/2006 8:23:49 PM PST by moog
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To: balrog666

The most preposterous notion is this caricature.


65 posted on 02/10/2006 11:18:42 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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