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To: robowombat
What is offered is a roadmap to citizenship and its benefits but the illegals will have to stay in a lesser status than legal resident aliens for some period of time (3-5 years) and the clock starts running on resident status counting towards citizenship only after this other period passes.

You do realize that if all these illegals are given citizenship closing the border won't matter much since thanks to family chain laws and any guest worker program that's get enacted half that country will be able to immigrate legally. I'm not sure that's in the national interest to allow one country to dominate our immigration system in such a manner. Not to mention it'll no doubt give the democratic party majority rule possibly for decades.

139 posted on 02/09/2006 11:00:34 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You do realize that if all these illegals are given citizenship closing the border won't matter much since thanks to family chain laws and any guest worker program that's get enacted half that country will be able to immigrate legally. I'm not sure that's in the national interest to allow one country to dominate our immigration system in such a manner. Not to mention it'll no doubt give the democratic party majority rule possibly for decades.

It gets worse.

Under the terms of the Social Security Totalization Agreement, the Mexican illegal alien can apply for and receive benefits for his Mexican national wife and Mexican national children, even if they've never stepped foot in the USA.

So, the question becomes, just how large is a Mexican illegal alien's family?

Since the SSA didn't really investigate the Mexican SS system for financial integrity, we have no way of knowing.

Worse still, the corrupt Mexican govenment officials could even start padding the roles with phony names to get even more money from our US Social Security. Since Bush's SS Administrator failed to provide any documentation of their system, they could be doing anything and we'd have no way to verify it.

And soon enough, the US Social Security system would bankrupt.

Thanks, George W. Bush!

144 posted on 02/09/2006 11:08:40 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Yes, for illegals the family chain laws could not be allowed to apply. The guest worker program will only not be legal illegal immigration if these people are rigorously tracked and if they overstay their permits the authorities move immediately to deport and ban for life reentering.

Also, I favor some real punitive consequences such as being incarcerated in a very austere facility for say a year for doing this before being shipped back to whereever. Again, in practical terms the government would have to display more intestinal fortitude than it currently does for this to work. Perhaps its the change in the larger culture, a majority (although no means all) of Americans seem to be mushy at the center and more afraid of being called 'meanspirited' or 'racist' than effectively betraying their country.
145 posted on 02/09/2006 11:19:52 AM PST by robowombat
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