Everyone knows that these "Get Tuff" republicans are blowin' smoke and the "fix is in". In the meantime they will try to use the issue to raise as much money as possible. Maybe even write a book and start a thread at FR to sell it.
OK, now I see - you missed the genesis of this discussion. MNJohnnie was again accusing Hayworth of ONLY talking and of doing nothing (he does that a lot). In response to his factless claim, I posted a link to the bill that Hayworth introduced in Sept 05. (Later, Cboldt posted a permanent link, mine timed out.)
My position WRT illegals is: Secure the borders first to stem the flow, then start sending back the illegals who are already here.
What it take to get those two things get done, I really don't care much.
Just git 'er done.
We can discuss immigration reform after all that. Definitely not before.