[Tammy8]

There are laws now in place to keep illegals from working, I would have to see them enforced before I get fired up about new laws.

If a fence is a pipe dream, then solving the border issues will not be possible. A fence will slow illegal traffic to a manageable number, then enforcement is possible. The border is now in reality undefined in most areas. Enforcement is spread out willy nilly in hope of catching what they can. A fence would allow enforcement to concentrate on the actual border, so for that reason would be more effective.

I have lived on the border over 30 years and am living with the results of many failed plans. If the government is so sure they can close the border without a fence, and make it impossible for illegals to work here without documents, then they need to prove that part of the plan works before they move foreward with any plan to allow more in. For years I thought the problems could be solved without a fence, I am now convinced otherwise.

[MadCharity]

I agree with you Tammy. We need to build that damn wall or the immigration policies will not ever change.

I also agree that more should be done to enforce the laws currently in place.

[Wonder Warthog]

"If the government is so sure they can close the border without a fence, and make it impossible for illegals to work here without documents, then they need to prove that part of the plan works before they move foreward with any plan to allow more in."

Well, I certainly agree with the above--but a fence by itself will help nothing. The traffic will simply move to other areas of the border.