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Hayworth Says Only American People Can Halt Bush's Guest-Worker Plan
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | Feb 7, 2006 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 02/07/2006 9:59:00 AM PST by boryeulb

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To: Sterco

Did anybody tell you that the employee verification will take 5 years to implement?

Ask your friends in Greasy Colorado how pleasant life is? We have had a belly full of your illegal entry into our territory, Vaya Casa. I mean really!!!


121 posted on 02/07/2006 6:26:14 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; ravingnutter

"Your love of President Bush is seriously eroding your judgement."

There's a long, long difference between love and adoration. The Raving Nutcake holds Bush higher than Muslims hold Mohammed.


122 posted on 02/07/2006 6:39:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

That's right. Your bottom better get across the line if your not a citizen.


123 posted on 02/07/2006 6:43:07 PM PST by axes_of_weezles
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To: Sterco

Whatever you do, don't go beserko over the illegals, you might end up in jail. For a long time.


124 posted on 02/07/2006 6:49:01 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: axes_of_weezles; ravingnutter

House bill funds Guard border duty (AZ Gets IT)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573931/posts


125 posted on 02/07/2006 6:52:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
a fence will prove 1) expensive and 2) useless.

Oh come now. What's a couple of billion? That's how much a border fence would cost. $2 billion ain't nothing. A water droplet in the Pacific.

And it would not be "useless." A strong border fence with round-the-clock surveillance would decrease illegal immigration by over 90%.

Key among these is strong enforcement actions on businesses who hire them (knowlingly OR unknowingly). The owners of said businesses should face stiff fines AND prison time.

You have to look at the root of the problem. Why are businesses paying illegals under the table? Blame the tax code. Blame the suffocating cost of doing business in America. Running a business is a nightmare now. Although I disagree with what these businesses are doing, I empathize with their predicament.

126 posted on 02/07/2006 9:45:49 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Wonder Warthog
but a fence by itself will help nothing. The traffic will simply move to other areas of the border.

To where? Will illegals raft through the Gulf of Mexico and come ashore or what?

127 posted on 02/07/2006 9:47:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Sterco

Mexico should be rolling in prosperity. They got a wonderful climate, oil, and natural resources up the wazoo. Plus their citizens are hard-working and family-oriented. All they need is a good dose of capitalism from an uncorruptable leader who's willing to roll up his/her sleeves and get the job done.


128 posted on 02/07/2006 9:53:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: MadCharity
Bush's Guest Worker Program = Amnesty

I have to agree. Bush's plan reward the illegals - it doesn't do a thing to discourage criminal behavior or to reward those that have done things the right way.

A 'guest' is someone that I invite to my home willingly, know who they are, and can ask them to leave. The invaders are more like someone who shows up at my house in the middle of the night and has taken over my spare room and been raiding my refrigerator without my consent. And refuses to leave so that I end up leaving my house to find a new place to live. (Which is why I am intent on leaving California ASAP!)
129 posted on 02/07/2006 10:59:38 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: ravingnutter
The Senate backed away from its 2004 pledge to hire 2,000 more Border Patrol agents and fund 8,000 new detention beds for illegal aliens in fiscal 2006. The intelligence overhaul bill passed by Congress and signed into law in last December called for 2,000 new agents and 8,000 new detention beds each year for the next five years in order to meet the threat posed by illegal aliens. But in mid-July, the Senate voted on amendments to the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, providing funds for only 1,000 more agents and 2,240 more detention beds in fiscal 2006.

At the President's request.

Those measures are like installing one or two termite modules around a six acre lot. We don't see exterminators indulging in such purposely weak foolishness and crying "We did our best!" after the structures fall down.

By the way, if your septic tank is clogged I've got a line on a ferocious all-natural remedy: a mammalian species that finds no excrement too dense or filthy to be navigated. Handy for that one talent, Demorino Publictraitoris has the unfortunate tendency to spread mental disease and other maladies until the surrounding environment is rendered uninhabitable by cognizant wage-earners. These vile creatures must be handled by qualified technicians who can shut out the auditory stimuli they emit whenever one or more humans congregate without protection or prior experience. Symptoms of exposure may include dizziness, darkening of visual perception and lightness of wallet. Should you or anyone you know suffer from any of these symptoms re-read the Constitution and withhold enabling contributions to the disease immediately.

And you know the President is charged with our defense. If he's too compromised (corrupt) to do so we need one who will discharge that duty without hesitation. Hayworth, Tancredo, Ginry or 70 others would do better - and would do it without sucking up to the Clintons and Kennedys (which is totally inexcusable).

Of course, Bush bashers don't want to address that fact either.

So like the enemies of freedom who freely apply labels like "racist" to those who disagree with their view. Not that I haven't called communist and socialist tools just that when trying to shove "political correctness" down my throat. I just see referring to people as "Bush Bashers" as if the man is beyond criticism or somehow (heaven help us) above the laws we commoners knuckle under is dangerously close to putting a personality above the government. Our government. It's ours in word if not in action and present reality.

130 posted on 02/08/2006 2:11:43 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (America first - not just a slogan...no one else is qualified!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; ravingnutter; All
Raving Nutter: IT'S A DEAD HORSE, PEOPLE, YOU CAN STOP BEATING IT NOW!

Reaganwuzthebest: Tell that to Bush. He's just proposed $247 million dollars in the budget for a new massive guest worker/amnesty program so apparently he's anticipating something you believe is a dead horse.

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My email from FAIR:

FROM THE DESK OF THE PRESIDENT RE: President's Budget Spends More for Guest Workers than Worksite Enforcement

Yesterday the Bush Administration issued its budget request for the upcoming fiscal year that will begin on October 1. In it he has asked Congress to approve $247 million to implement a guest worker amnesty program that is strongly opposed by many members of Congress. This represents nearly $100 million more than he proposed for worksite enforcement and expansion of the voluntary worker verification system combined.

For the border patrol, who work to secure our porous borders, the President asked for funding to support only 1,500 new border patrol agents in the fiscal year that begins next October. While this sounds significant, this number is 500 border patrol agents less than authorized in the intelligence overhaul legislation enacted into law well over a year ago and for the two fiscal years covered since enactment of that law it is a Border Patrol shortfall of 1,000 officers.

You and I know that over the last few months the President has made a point of calling for tougher actions to control our borders and enforce laws against illegal immigration. I'm sure you have doubted the President's sincerity just as I have, fearing that the new tough talk would disappear once he got his guest worker amnesty program through the Congress. Well we were wrong. The President has not waited for Congressional approval before putting on full display his real intentions to put enforcement in the back seat and his more passionate desire for a guest worker amnesty proposal behind the wheel. You and I get run over by the bus.

How Congress will respond to this budget remains to be seen. The House is already on record passing tough enforcement legislation without any guest worker program while the Senate will begin work on its version in early March. At this point the Senate is expected to be far more receptive to the President's proposals than the House.

We intend to do everything we can here in Washington, D.C. to prevent passage of a guest worker amnesty program of any description. We need your full and active participation to convince Congress that amnesty has been tried and failed in the past and that an open-ended guest worker program will drive another stake in the heart of American middle and lower income workers.

Dan Stein
President

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It's gut time and every call, fax or letter will make a dent. I, for one, would rather be able to look back and be able to say I made an effort rather than look stupid when the younger people ask what did I do to help prevent catastrophe. Five minutes of your time may sway history. - NRT

131 posted on 02/08/2006 2:40:44 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (America first - not just a slogan...no one else is qualified!)
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To: boryeulb

I heard Hayworth on the Hugh Hewitt show.

I thought did very well.

Hewitt on the other hand is a complete RINO on the issue of illegal immigration. He actually implied anyone who didn't like illegal immigration was a "Nativist". NO doubt Hugh will be soon be calling people "Racists" if the issue heats up.


132 posted on 02/08/2006 2:40:55 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Sterco
"The "Wall" is enough of a symbol that the majority of the Mexican "Peons" will pay heed and stay home."

Sorry, but I disagree. The only thing that will stop them from coming here is to make it impossible for them to earn a living, and to make it highly likely that they will be caught and deported if the do manage to find a job in the "underground economy". THEN they'll stay home.

133 posted on 02/08/2006 3:49:28 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"A strong border fence with round-the-clock surveillance would decrease illegal immigration by over 90%."

For a short while. Then new modes of "coyoteing" would be developed, and the level would be back up.

No. The ONLY thing that will deter them is to make if extremely difficult to make a living, and to increase the probability that they will be found and deported.

The "fence" is a fake panacea.

"You have to look at the root of the problem. Why are businesses paying illegals under the table? Blame the tax code. Blame the suffocating cost of doing business in America. Running a business is a nightmare now. Although I disagree with what these businesses are doing, I empathize with their predicament."

Bullshit. MOST businesses succeed without hiring illegal immmigrants. The ONLY reason businesses do so is pure greed, which is why the penalties should be raised to the point that any possible profit will "disappear" if the business is found to be hiring illegals.

134 posted on 02/08/2006 3:54:19 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"To where? Will illegals raft through the Gulf of Mexico and come ashore or what?"

Some of them (though not rafts). "Coyotes" will simply shift from trucks and vans to boats. A lot if them will simply fly to Canada and cross the northern border (if they are paying coyotes hundreds and in some cases thousands of dollars, they can certainly afford a plane ticket to Canada).

NEVER underestimate human ingenuity.

135 posted on 02/08/2006 3:57:05 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Sorry, but I disagree. The only thing that will stop them from coming here is to make it impossible for them to earn a living, and to make it highly likely that they will be caught and deported if the do manage to find a job in the "underground economy". THEN they'll stay home.

Exactly.

Some businessmen are addicted to brown serfs. These men need to be punished.

136 posted on 02/08/2006 4:03:46 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Wormwood

Do you have a fence in your back yard?


137 posted on 02/08/2006 4:15:22 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Trteamer
Do you have a fence in your back yard?

Of course.

I believe a fence is a valuable component in border enforcement.

But getting one erected would be little more than a symbolic gesture if the demand for illegal scab labor is not addressed.

138 posted on 02/08/2006 4:19:45 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: MadCharity; BlackVeil
Come on Bush, get with the program. Close the borders, PERIOD!!! I am all for immigration, when it's LEGAL.

Ditto!

You reckon' ol' V. Fox has pictures of Bush with a ugly goat "Doing the job Americans won't do."?

139 posted on 02/08/2006 4:28:08 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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(GOP and there free trade and cheep labor)

No problem here.

I will withhold all GOP votes till they get the message. I've come to the conclusion all Bush and his band won't from the little people is a VOTE.
140 posted on 02/08/2006 4:37:49 AM PST by Dewy (1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;)
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