Posted on 02/07/2006 9:59:00 AM PST by boryeulb
Unless we increase enforcement and deportation, a fence will accomplish exactly nothing--they'll still be coming in and their number will continue increasing. The only thing is that the rate of increase will drop a little. You underevaluate the force of human ingenuity.
OTOH, with sufficient increase in enforcement and penalties against employment, we probably won't NEED the fence in the first place.
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It is real easy to get rid of the illegals.
As you may, or may not, know, employers file quarterly reports which include names, addresses, and SS numbers.
The Feds get a list every 90 days of every bogus SS number being used.
With this fact, the feds can do any number of things such as go out and arrest/deport the illegal or simply write a letter to the employer telling him to fire the illegal.
The feds don't need the employer, they can do it theselves. And they could have been doing it for the last 20 years.
But they don't.
You are missing the point. It appears to be intentional.
You are no longer worth the effort of a reasonable discussion.
Buh bye.
The truth hurts?
Mr. Presedente Bush is about to run into his first brick wall. The nation knows that this will not work. The illegal immigrants have hit Washington's own territory. Hey Mr. Bush how do you like "MS 13" in Washington? Get ready for much worse!!! Your stance in this nation is fading and fading fast. Get a grip Mr. President!!! We are going to have to deal with the invasion you leave us with. Nice to be a lame duck!!!
It's not that the laws that are flawed, they are not enforced; since the laws in place are not being enforced, why would you think for a moment that new ones would be?
Explain how passing new laws would allow you to apprehend and deport 3 million illegals per year, while they are still streaming in, because there is no fence. Don't forget there are already millions here now to deport.
Ben has a lot of "Oral Traction" he supports illegal immigration and always has.
You are no longer worth the effort of a reasonable discussion.
Buh bye.
I was talking to Ben so there is no confusion.
The truth hurts?
The point that hurts is "Illegal Mexicans Suck the Big One" we just don't want them here anymore. They cost us lots of money. Education, incareration, food stamps, and just generally being a illegal Mexican pain in the American ass. How about they all just go the "fornification" home and we enjoy our country and the illegal Mexicans enjoy theirs. It is going to happen Ben. My Senator just informed me that the are over whelmed with English speaking people telling them that "enough is enough". Ben that does not bode well for illegal immigrants. Sorry dude but the damn damn is going to come down!!!
Maybe because a sufficiently large number of people got enough pissed off about the subject to force Congress to act. That "is" basically what is happening. Congress really has no interest in restricitng illegal immigration, but they are catching enough flak from their constitutents that they are being forced into it.
"Explain how passing new laws would allow you to apprehend and deport 3 million illegals per year, while they are still streaming in, because there is no fence. Don't forget there are already millions here now to deport. "
Maybe because those laws would drastically increase the number of immigration enforcement officers, and streamline and simplify the rules so deportation is faster and easier.
If these things are done, the fence won't be needed. If they are NOT done, the fence will do no good.
Do you think that your senator is telling you what you want to hear?
The "Wall" is enough of a symbol that the majority of the Mexican "Peons" will pay heed and stay home. Mezico has a lot of "house cleaning" to do. We here in America can no longer take on Mexico's responsiblities. If anyone left in Mexico has any "cajones" they will take care of the problem themselves. Quit expecting America to take your problems. Hey you Mexican macho pukes get after the problem head on!!! Don't try to dump it on the USA. You bunch of weinies!!!
Do you think that your senator is telling you what you want to hear?
My Senator might be telling me what you don't "Want to hear". Haul back to Mexico dude. I am tired of your rhetoric. Times are changing. You are losing. How does it feel? Get ready for the worst. America just woke up!!!
The bottom line always prevails.
Hide and Watch!!!
My Denver friends tell me if you walk into a Norte Denver bar and say "Migra" Mezicans go runnin like the devil is after em. That tells me you are losing dude. Get used to it!!!
Catch and release will still be in effect for another year.
Did anybody tell you that the employee verification will take 5 years to implement?
Did anybody tell you that the employee verification will take 5 years to implement?
Did anyone tell you how miserable we are going to make the lives of these illegal trespassers? And we will make them miserable in Colorado. I hope the rest of you here are paying attention to this.
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