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To: DirtyHarryY2K

The Founding Fathers had a lot of discussion about Democracies and Republics, they expected the U.S. to last around 200 years, yet you cannot get your head out of the sand.


60 posted on 02/07/2006 9:28:56 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

head out of the sand? What is the point of talking about the romans and greeks? Dead societies are still dead even if the affects of their culture can still be felt. I'm not sure what the point of all of it is. . . But I have read a lot of this thread and maybe I'll go back to see who brought up the greeks and romans and why.


66 posted on 02/08/2006 7:14:21 AM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
It is interesting to watch people pretend that homosexuality did not exist until the 1960's. These people should learn about the ancient Greeks and Romans.

It seems that you brought it up, however I don't recall anyone saying in the replies or original post that homosexuality didnt exist until the 60's. It seems youve hijacked this thread and led it off on a tangent that vaguely if at all applies to the pressing issue of making homophobia a mental disorder.

The empires of the past had homosexuals and bath houses,so what. They contributed philosophy, art, and science but how does it apply. Youre gonna have to bring your argument a little closer to home. Homosexuals have been around forever just as liars have been around forever, but the point is that the thought that we should cater to the choose to be gay homosexual is on the incline and its ridiculous, so much so that now there are those who are entertaining the notion of declaring that a mental disorder exists if one chooses not to support a certain behaviour, its idiotic. I'm a gay hater if I don't see BBM or I dont want to patronize a openly gay establishment? I have a mental disorder that needs to be treated with drugs? No amount of drugs are going to remove the truths that I have stored in my head, homosexual is not normal or acceptable in my mind. I dont hate the practitioners but I am not going to knowingly support them.

68 posted on 02/08/2006 7:24:07 AM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
yet you cannot get your head out of the sand.

Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand Paul.

Homophobia:

This term is probably the most outrageous invention of the "gay" sophists. the illogic of homophobia is insultingly blatant.The term "homophobia" is a made-up term, created by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance to try and make wrong the hudreds of millions of people throughout the world who are thuroughlly apalled and disgusted by the sexually psychotic morally insane lifestyles promoted by them.

"Homophobia" indicates a "fear" of sexual perversion. One does not have to "fear" dog crap to not want to eat it, play with it, sexualize it or otherwise oppose and ridecule those that do.

Originally, homophobia was psychiatric jargon invented to describe a person's fear of homosexual inclinations in him or herself. "Gay" activists simply stole the term and redefined it as "hate and/or fear of homosexuals."

As a rhetorical weapon, homophobia is unequaled. It serves first to define anyone who opposes the legitimization of homosexuality as a hate-filled bigot. The universal inclusion of all opponents as homophobic is of course not emphasized. Homosexual activists publicly associate this label with violent "gay bashers" and hateful fanatics. When they use the term they want people to think about the killers of Matthew Shepard, but in conventional practice they include every man, woman and child who believes homosexuality is abnormal or wrong.

Secondly, the term defines opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. "Gay" activists take special delight in this since it was scant decades ago that homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatry (removed by the political maneuvering of homosexual activists in a 1973 vote of the members of the American Psychiatric Association without one shred of scientific evidence proving homosexual behavior to be a normal immutable human attribute).

Thirdly, the term serves as the semantic equivalent of "racist," helping the "gay" movement to further indoctrinate the public with the notion that opposition to homosexuality is equivalent to prejudice against racial minorities. The use of the term is in itself religious discrimination because it implicitly disparages and declares illegitimate the religious teachings of several major world religions. Adoption of the term by government constitutes a prima facie violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits the endorsement or inhibition of religion.

70 posted on 02/08/2006 8:07:10 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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