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Dallas man's flags don't fly with veterans: Mexican banner sits above Old Glory to protest Iraq war
Dallas Morning News ^ | February 3, 2006 | ALLEN HOUSTON

Posted on 02/06/2006 7:04:44 PM PST by beaversmom

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To: Melas
Its too late in his case, but he illustrates perfectly the danger of anchor babies. I recall one of the guys picked up fighting for the Taliban (not the Marin County ratboy) was born to Saudi parents in the US. Made him a US citizen and he got the rights of an American. Taliban Ratboy (John Walker Lindh) actually forfeited his citizenship by taking up arms against America BTW.
41 posted on 02/06/2006 8:47:59 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: zeaal

The guy has been all over the Dallas news. He's a senile old man, and he comes across as being extremely emotionally labile. Is he being a jerk? Certainly. Is he a threat of any sort? Absolutely not.


42 posted on 02/06/2006 8:49:10 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: who knows what evil?

It IS a violation of the flag code. However, there are no punative clauses in the flag code, so there is no penalty for violating it. And...more importantly, we don't deport American citizens.


43 posted on 02/06/2006 8:51:16 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Urban legend. Walker didn't forfeit his citizenship, nor has he been stripped of it. As a matter of fact, any and all doubt about his citizenship was laid to rest when he was tried as an American citizen.


44 posted on 02/06/2006 8:56:59 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Yeah that was my thought about him being senile. In fact its the real story is that the Media is taking advantage of a poor mans senile state to make a political point.


45 posted on 02/06/2006 9:06:54 PM PST by bayourant
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To: fallujah-nuker

ok so this guy has been a citizen for 71 years and you would deport him. I know people can disagree on this issue but that should never be done retroactively. If we est a new rule fine its prospective only. The thought of the Govt divesting me of rights is frightning so lets not go down that road. What would be next


46 posted on 02/06/2006 9:10:27 PM PST by bayourant
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To: bayourant

That's what the media does though. We all know this. This story got press because the press knew it would hit buttons, generate anger and stir up hatred. All of which means ratings and sales.


47 posted on 02/06/2006 9:13:48 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: SmoothTalker

F---Him and the Whores he rode in on.


48 posted on 02/06/2006 9:17:38 PM PST by mathurine (ua)
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To: Melas
Sorry guy, but he's 75 years old, he was born in America, and he's lived in America all of his life. There is no way you can spin him into being anything other than an American.

Which demonstrates a known fact perfectly. They DON'T assimilate. And this unreasonable refusal to become part of a society in which he has lived in all of his life is racist.

49 posted on 02/06/2006 9:48:40 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: TLI
They DON'T assimilate.

Who exactly is they?

50 posted on 02/06/2006 10:00:27 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Sorry guy, but he's 75 years old, he was born in America, and he's lived in America all of his life. There is no way you can spin him into being anything other than an American. Just because you don't like his politics doesn't change the facts.

Fact this I would like to shove his dentures down his throat. This is his nation if he loves Mexico enough to fly their goddamn flag he should haul his ass down there.


51 posted on 02/07/2006 9:28:15 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Sterco
Fact this I would like to shove his dentures down his throat.

And what a charming individual you must be. Could you possibly try harder to make a fool of yourself?

52 posted on 02/07/2006 9:30:31 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

I get to decide for myself.

In the United States, individuals do not have to have a state or "consensus" to define what they prefer or want or understand.

I vote accordingly. Communism, that is the bad influence of so many from Mexico and South and Central America, has so indoctrinated so many people culturally from those regions, that, just as you are alleging in your own counter here, that no individual "gets to" define whatever.

Yes, I "get to define" what and how I reason whatever. To my read, the Fourteenth Amendment HISTORICALLY AND ACADEMICALLY was not created to provide "anchor baby" privilege for citizenship and in fact, suggests that something of that plan was rejectable and to be denied citizenship.

It has only been reinterpreted in contemporary times and it's an affront to the sinceritiy of the Amendment itself. Many American individuals, including me, reason just that way.

It's my decision, my determination, as to my opinion about this and that's how I'll be working and voting accordingly and that is to see that the Fourteenth Amendment is applied sincerely as it was written and that does NOT include the more contemporary misapplication of "anchor baby" privilege of citizenship.

If you feel differntly, as you appear to, then vote accordingly. But in the United States as a republic, we individuals are free to decide these things for ourselves and work toward improving our representational government by individual vote accordingly.


53 posted on 02/07/2006 11:22:01 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Melas

It does not matter to me what you "concede" or do not "concede."

It's a misapplication of the Amendment and it will eventually be corrected, if American voters are represented in this issue. There's a lot of support for righting the misapplication and misappropriation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

How anyone can illegally enter the country for purposes of birthing a child that they then demand the country to pay expenses for (hospitalizations, medical care, later support and education) is the issue that you might want to concern yourself with, as to the lack of ethics involved in everyone who engages in that behavior.

The United States was not founded upon the hopes and aspirations of thieves and usery. We have a representational government and individuals are expected to earn their own way, to be individually motivated and free to motivate.

Breaking the laws inorder to manipulate the Constitution is unethical of the worst sort and it is insulting to the many Americans who have lost their very lives to protect and defend the country. That illegal-sneak process also demeans the very worth of citizenship. A lot of Americans object to it. As do I.


54 posted on 02/07/2006 11:26:36 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Melas

One finger pointing at, three fingers pointing at you.


55 posted on 02/07/2006 11:27:51 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: MillerCreek
If you feel differntly, as you appear to, then vote accordingly.

I think we can boil everything down to this line from your post. Indeed, you vote your way and I'll vote mine, and one of our views will prevail. You seem to think it will be your view, and I disagree. We're at the point where all there is left to do is wait and see.

56 posted on 02/07/2006 11:40:42 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas
Urban legend. Walker didn't forfeit his citizenship...

Page four, second paragraph, item (3) in your US passport is no "urban legend." Read it.
57 posted on 02/07/2006 5:32:13 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Regardless of what you think your passport says, or does not say, Walker did not lose his U.S. citizenship. It's easy enough to research, have at it.


58 posted on 02/07/2006 5:41:19 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas
Regardless of what you think your passport says, or does not say, Walker did not lose his U.S. citizenship. It's easy enough to research, have at it.

If you read my actual post you will see that I wrote:

"Taliban Ratboy (John Walker Lindh) actually forfeited his citizenship by taking up arms against America BTW." I did not use the word "lost."
59 posted on 02/07/2006 5:50:23 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Melas

And what a charming individual you must be. Could you possibly try harder to make a fool of yourself?


Only if you had the privilage of watching me senoritta!!! And I would give you the best show I could!!!


60 posted on 02/07/2006 6:31:35 PM PST by Sterco
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