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To: Peach

Grassley prompting Gonzales to go over some more court decisions which are part of the legal groundwork for today's actions. Gonzales laying out the broad and long history...


557 posted on 02/06/2006 8:24:59 AM PST by Gritty (“A court of law is not meant to be a field of battle” – Mark Steyn)
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To: Gritty
My two cents coming up:

THIS is about constitutional powers and nothing less.

We have three branches of government, not to state the obvious. Congress is NOT, ahem, the administrative branch.

The administrative branch serves its purpose and I'll even tell you what has to happen.

First, congress controls wars via the budget process. Take away the money, boom, no war.

Congress also inputs as to treaties, laws on intelligence, etc. THAT is the congressional role.

Wars are fought by the administrative branch via, read my lips, the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.

Which commander-in-chief briefed select congress critters as prudent, got the legal arguments, then did the deed. I am very comfortable with what Bush is doing, as are the American people don't kid yourself.

This whole setup is nothing but a way to keep their irrelevant selves in the news. I speak of the minority party here, which has been rendered basically powerless but hey, they can't fade in the background; they can't be forgotten.

These bunch of losers are challenging the administrative branch of OUR government and I'm not amused.

There's a reason we don't have 100 lords from the House of Lords plus 500+ from the House of Reps running wars, for God's sake.

We have an army, we have a commander-in-chief and there's a reason for that connection. It is the absolutely final recourse of the commander-in-chief to protect this nation. No question at all, ever, and it was part of the plan.

Now how many Americans dying are not enough?

I hear them using the nuclear war analogy, as if, "if a nuclear bomb is about to go off...yada, yada". Okay, is that the minimum? Like, "if a nuclear bomb is about to go off" the CIC can torture, scream, kill, bomb back...whatever, whatever? So that's about what? twenty million people or so?

Now at how many Americans does this cut-off begin when that absolute power for the CIC begin to decline? Hmmmm.?

So if it's only about two or three thousand Americans that might be saved by, say, a communication intercept program that monitors calls with the enemy....well for that few Americans the CIC loses power. After a few weeks we won't even miss two or three thousand Americans.

What's going to have to happen is for this administration to refuse to be challenged, not to mention, distracted, by this totally outlandish challenge to the separation of powers by our constitution.

I'm serious. Just refuse. Don't send Gonzales up there. Give congress the finger. Let congress send it to the supreme court or whatever to do when the separation of powers is challenged.

That's the only way this politcal gamemanship that endangers ALL Americans, is going to stop.

You're welcome. ;)

725 posted on 02/06/2006 9:04:34 AM PST by Fishtalk
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