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LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050

Good Monday morning, once again, fellow political jinkies. The NFL season may be over, but the political season inside the Beltway is 24/7/365. So join us, if you can, as those wacky Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee reprise their pitiful efforts to once again smear President Bush and score political points..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; ag; albertogonzales; attorneygeneral; doj; dojprobe; gonzales; nsa; spying; ussenate
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To: Txsleuth

Even the Ringling Bros, Barnum and Bailey, has to end sometime.


1,161 posted on 02/06/2006 10:47:09 AM PST by conservativebabe ("I came here to chew bubble gum and kick @ss, and I'm all out of bubble gum")
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To: BeforeISleep

Enjoying yourself? :-)


1,162 posted on 02/06/2006 10:47:27 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Mo1

Oh look he's reading his KOS diary.


1,163 posted on 02/06/2006 10:47:46 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Howlin

Feingold giving one of his planned stump speeches in 2008,,,,BARF!!!


1,164 posted on 02/06/2006 10:48:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Howlin

OOPS sorry, didn't realize hip had made that comment.


BTW...Feingold just said that Graham, DeWine, and BROWNBACK have all agreed with the dems that Bush DID NOT have the authorization under the "war act" that was voted on???

Feingold is just nasty!


1,165 posted on 02/06/2006 10:48:48 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Howlin
And since it's closed, the Dems are free to mischaracterize it till the end of time.

Yep. After Hayden rips their collective @$$&$ off and hands their @$$&$ back to them on silver platters behind closed doors, the Democrats will run teary-eyed toward the nearest camera and microphone and say that Hayden was a hostile witness.

1,166 posted on 02/06/2006 10:48:48 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Howlin

Feingold is using Air America talking points ---"pre1776"


1,167 posted on 02/06/2006 10:48:50 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World. Democrats and the media are not on our side.)
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To: Howlin

I'd like him to convert so he's not a part of my religion anymore


1,168 posted on 02/06/2006 10:48:59 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Howlin
(:
I missed most of this so far
1,169 posted on 02/06/2006 10:49:28 AM PST by firewalk
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To: HonestConservative

Who Montgomery Burns?


1,170 posted on 02/06/2006 10:49:31 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: hipaatwo

Is he implying that Gonzales might lie?


1,171 posted on 02/06/2006 10:49:44 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Feingold is an pompous horse's rear.


1,172 posted on 02/06/2006 10:49:53 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: BeforeISleep

Me, too!


1,173 posted on 02/06/2006 10:50:02 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Txsleuth

Gonzales: The Chair asked my views about being sworn in and I said I had no objection.

Specter: No one asked me from the administration not to swear in Gonzales.


1,174 posted on 02/06/2006 10:50:03 AM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Txsleuth

Lindsey Graham?


1,175 posted on 02/06/2006 10:50:43 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Howlin

probably why I'm still smiling...


1,176 posted on 02/06/2006 10:51:03 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Howlin

"The Founders in their wisdom made [the President] not only the Commander-in-Chief but also the guiding organ in the conduct of our foreign affairs," possessing "vast powers in relation to the outside world." Ludecke v. Watkins, 335 U.S. 160, 173 (1948). Foreign affairs power the “exclusive power of the President as sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations - a power which does not require as a basis for its exercise an act of Congress." United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp., 299 U.S. 304, 320 (1936).

Protecting the national security is also Presidential domain. Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 800, 812 n.19 (1982). The President's constitutional primacy flows from both his unique position in the constitutional structure, and from the specific grants of authority in Article II that make the President both the Chief Executive of the Nation and the Commander in Chief. See Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731, 749-50 (1982). As Hamilton explained: "the circumstances which may affect the public safety are [not] reducible within certain determinate limits, . . . it must be admitted, as a necessary consequence that there can be no limitation of that authority which is to provide for the defense and protection of the community in any matter essential to its efficiency."

”The command and application of the public force . . . to maintain peace, and to resist foreign invasion" are executive powers. Application of Yamashita, 327 U.S. 1, 12 (1946). The authority to protect national security is NOT limited to actions necessary for "victories in the field." Id. The authority over national security "carries with it the inherent power to guard against the immediate renewal of the conflict." Id.

The President “has broad discretion in determining when the public emergency is such as to give rise to the necessity" for emergency measures. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. at 336. "[T]he President has independent authority to repel aggressive acts by third parties even without specific statutory authorization." Campbell v. Clinton, 203 F.3d 19 The Constitution gives the power to the President “to preserve order and insure the public safety . . . . when other branches of the government . . . functioning would itself threaten the public safety." Duncan v. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. 304, 335 (1946) (Stone, C.J., concurring).

The courts have affirmed it is President’s constitutional responsibility to respond to that threat with whatever means are necessary. See, e.g., Prize Cases, 67 U.S. at 635.

The Supreme Court has made clear that it will not construe legislative powers so as to prevent the President "from accomplishing its constitutionally assigned functions." Nixon v. Administrator of General Servs., 433 U.S. 425, 443 (1977).


1,177 posted on 02/06/2006 10:51:55 AM PST by excludethis
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To: Howlin

Feingold makes me want to spit nails, but the AG is doing well against him.


1,178 posted on 02/06/2006 10:52:12 AM PST by conservativebabe ("I came here to chew bubble gum and kick @ss, and I'm all out of bubble gum")
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To: Peach
Feingold tries another purjury trap, Gonzales catches him, slaps it away. This should be the tone of the rest of the day.
1,179 posted on 02/06/2006 10:52:14 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: hipaatwo
Oh look he's reading his KOS diary.

He needs to brush up on his history .. cause he doesn't have a clue

1,180 posted on 02/06/2006 10:52:24 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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