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A European Awakening Against Islamic Fascism? (Victor Davis Hanson alert)
RealClearPolitics.com (Commentary) ^ | 2/6/2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/06/2006 5:09:31 AM PST by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

Thanks for the post


21 posted on 02/06/2006 6:24:13 AM PST by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: Dark Skies

Ping


22 posted on 02/06/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by PubliusMM (Just doin' my best to stay free and secure. God Bless our military personnel.)
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To: Dark Skies

Europeans will wake up sooner or later on the Muslim question. It's just whether they will wake up in time or not.


23 posted on 02/06/2006 6:33:03 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: wideawake
A combination of Western European wealth and Eastern European youth might do it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Poles came to save Western Europe again, as they did in 1683 at Vienna.

24 posted on 02/06/2006 6:38:58 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Dark Skies

Long-term geopolitical developments are not cyclical or even linear, but "quantized"-- subject to abrupt discontinuities, invariably unforeseen, that nonetheless "change everything" to provide radically different contexts for generations. Think 1789, 1914... those worlds of the late 18th and early 20th Centuries perished so abruptly, so totally, that anyone passing such historical divides became an instant socio-cultural fossil.

And so today... with the caveat, that Europe's looming demographic catastrophe --a population drop due to rival that of the Great Plagues-- is going to manifest itself in many a strange way. For starters: By 2030, there will be no "youth culture"; the excresences of Boomerdom from about 1960 through 2010 will be a memory, a "what were they thinking?" theme when adult reality re-asserts itself. Second, lacking human cohorts, there will be extraordinary incentive to substitute "artificial", robotic means for low-end functions all through society. Finally, by this mid-Twenty First Century, it is all but certain that mankind will have moved substantial numbers off the planet, especially as it's borne in that our current Interglacial is 3,000 years past-due to end. ("Global warming" is a carnard, an 800-year cyclical phenomenon driven by annular rings of dust within the inner Solar System.)

What this will do to Muslim crypto-fascism, assuming that even Old Europe will snap to attentiveness in time, is render every rug merchant and camel driver what they have always been-- benighted, ignorant, stupid in the Darwinian sense that, as a culture, they are so purposefully uncompetitive as to foster their extinction.

When the multi-culti, doofus-femmer, paleo-Leftist bubble bursts, the ones remaining will be those disgusted by it from Day One. We count ourselves as such. Mounting our Rainbow Bridge, we seek new paths towards Home.









25 posted on 02/06/2006 6:55:18 AM PST by Pyrthroes (Dwelling in Possibility)
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To: Pyrthroes

Excellent post!


26 posted on 02/06/2006 7:08:32 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

He really lays it out clearly here...


27 posted on 02/06/2006 7:19:42 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: BadAndy

"The tide may be turning as far as EuroPeon attitudes toward the enemys withing the gates."

I certainly hope so. But given Eurpoean attitudes towards "the swarthy classes", it also make me realize that ultimately - in the cold light of history years from now - this will probably all go down as a racial thing.

And in fact... maybe it is.

Maybe this whole "Islam" thing is just eyewash. It is, as its probably always been - a matter of the have-nots against he haves.


28 posted on 02/06/2006 7:26:33 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Dark Skies

29 posted on 02/06/2006 7:30:04 AM PST by blueminnesota
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To: Dark Skies; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out.

Links: FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson 
His website: http://victorhanson.com/     NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp

30 posted on 02/06/2006 7:58:35 AM PST by Tolik
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To: wideawake
A combination of Western European wealth and Eastern European youth might do it.

I'd say you're right. You can say whatever you want about Serbs, Croats, and Yugoslavians but the bottom line is that those people are not afraid of anyone and they will stand and fight when it comes down to it.
31 posted on 02/06/2006 8:36:11 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: mosquitobite

The tide has begun to turn in Europe. But the road to common sense will be a slow travel.

Europe's movement away from the left will be a gradual one.


32 posted on 02/06/2006 9:21:14 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (John Paul Stevens for retirement)
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To: Dark Skies
The new European Union encompasses a population greater than the United States and spans a continent larger than our own territory. It has a greater gross domestic product than that of America and could, in theory, field military forces as disciplined and as well equipped as our own.

I doubt it. The demographics driving the politics behind the welfare state will make it increasingly impossible to spend tax money on anything other than pensions and health care. I don't think we entirely understand in this country how the political playing field has been narrowed by the arithmetic of European politics.

33 posted on 02/06/2006 9:28:41 AM PST by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: Dark Skies
If this is true and the Europeans are actually wising up to the Islamofascists and what they represent, then it is just another testament to Muslim short-sightedness and stupidity. They had no stauncher allies than the Europeans; as long as the jihad was being waged against the United States and Israel alone, the EU had no problem publicly "deploring" Muslim attacks while not so secretly winking and nodding at them and encouraging them to keep the attacks up, as long as they didn't target European interests. The Europeans even rationalized this by opining that Islamist attacks against US interests served as a check on "American imperialism and hegemony."

But now it's possible that the Muslims have failed to grasp what can happen if you bite the hand that keeps feeding you. Even the wimpiest dog owner you can imagine will eventually get tired of pulling back a bloody hand and reach a point where the dog is taken in to the vet to get put down, if the owner doesn't drag it out back and shoot it him/herself. Not a surprise that these people don't realize that, considering they come from a "culture" that reached it's high water mark in the 7th century and has steadily regressed in the centuries since.

34 posted on 02/06/2006 9:36:20 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: EricT.
As usual, VDH says what I have been thinking... only much more eloquently.

Don't you love it when that happens? My ability to put thoughts into effective words is sorely lacking, I am so glad that there are excellent writers with similar thoughts.

35 posted on 02/06/2006 9:39:57 AM PST by Paradox (Liberalism IS a religion.)
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To: untenured
It would take at least a generation for the Europeans to field a military that could even begin to go head-to-head with ours. The strength of our military lies in the wisdom and experience of the senior NCO corps. Good E-7's and above are not made overnight; it takes many years of training and practical experience gained at the hands of senior NCOs that came before they did. Besides that, it would take an investment of billions upon billions upon billions of Euros that no one in the EU would be willing to pay.
36 posted on 02/06/2006 9:42:24 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Dark Skies

Conservatives are now firmly in power in Australia, Canada, Germany, and the United States.


Also, Denmark unseated the Socialdemokraterne being replaced with a coalition of 3 very conservative parties that have reformed their immigration politics, so that it now takes 7 years instead of 4 years!


37 posted on 02/06/2006 9:43:17 AM PST by danamco
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To: Dark Skies
It will be interesting to see how long this realization lasts under the coming tide of revisionism that is inevitable given the political leanings of European press and intelligentsia. These will not give up their liturgy of multiculturalism lightly and inasmuch as it is belief-based rather than reason-based it is likely to be with us for some time to come.

We have already seen some of this revisionism in the refusal of French enlightened opinion to cede that the problems in their cites had any origins in Islam at all. The power of denial has been sustaining this cultural/political movement for several decades and tends to be pretty stubborn - it survived in the 1930's until the Nazis were physically, literally at the door.

I do not wish to seem overly pessimistic, but although this incident serves as a wake-up call I do not get the sense that the Europeans are sufficiently alarmed to actually do very much except attempt to close the door to a wolf who is already in the parlor.

38 posted on 02/06/2006 10:03:10 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I agree. I think the press and the people were caught off guard and responded before their more PC masters could get them under control. Personally, I think the result of this in Europe is ultimately going to be more "hate speech" legislation that effectively curtails any criticism or even speech about Muslims, no matter what they do to the rest of the population.

That said, I don't think we're really confronting it in the US, either. The American press has been bending over backwards not to do anything that might be perceived as offensive to Muslims, and I think you're soon going to see calls for more "sensitivity," "cultural awareness," etc. that effectively make Muslims a protected group. Mark my words.


39 posted on 02/06/2006 10:14:58 AM PST by livius
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To: Clintonfatigued

If Europe & Canada are able to move rightward, I see the Dumbocrats as truly extinct. *thumbs up*


40 posted on 02/06/2006 10:37:54 AM PST by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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