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To: King Prout
it's a long read...
but he really seems to have all his ducks in a row.

As to whether one believes in RV or now... is a whole different discussion. What caught my eye was his depiction of the surface of many planets etc.... described right down to a tee...twenty five years before our first probes made it out there.
107 posted on 02/06/2006 9:45:24 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

this doesn't look promising, honestly.

which of the plethora of articles on that site do you believe bears most closely on the topic at hand (the measurable velocity of thought)?


108 posted on 02/06/2006 9:48:25 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: taxed2death

first hit:

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/SuperpowerSeries5.html

"By far and large, people tend to deal only with the end-products of biomind processes -- because on average the processes which produce the end-products are so rapid that they do not enter awareness as discrete sensations.
The speed we would be talking about here is "instantaneous," especially regarding the basic five physical senses. Our responses to the end-products are also quite fast -- mostly so, at any rate.
In other words, our biomind systems can, in a split second, processes from signals, through signal (sense) receptors, thence through a large number of information transducers -- and do all of this between eye-blinks with time to spare."

bald assertion, without data or definitions or testing parameters

continuing...


110 posted on 02/06/2006 10:16:33 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: taxed2death

next hit, same article:

"But this indicates that something other than our intellect can process incoming signals, can think and make deductions and decisions.

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And indeed, those who have studied such phenomena beneath their surface apparencies are obliged to attribute this kind of activity to the autonomic nervous systems of the biomind.
The autonomic nervous systems are deemed entirely physical in nature -- but as such, they apparently can ACCURATELY process information-signals with a rapidity and elegance not entirely characteristic of the intellect itself.

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Biologically speaking, the autonomic nervous system is relatively well understood, except when it comes to something such as the jumping thing. For it is not understood at all how the autonomic systems can FORESEE. And, furthermore, not only foresee, but assign meaning to what is foreseen.

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Hence, an entire category of very specialized phenomena is missing here, or at least is submerged beneath the collective terms of intuition and gut feeling and which themselves are not inspected very deeply.

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But the jumping thing vividly demonstrates that our biomind organisms possess subtle superpower sensory receptors and sensory transducers which our intellects are not at all aware of.
And I, for one, am completely comfortable in calling anything a biomind superpower which gets me automatically out of the way of being clobbered."

error. error. error.

case in point: visual data goes through at least eighteen different processing phases before it is integrated into the intellectual construct we call conscious awareness. several of these processes pass through the limbic system via the amygdala, and can trigger automated responses to stimuli known (though experience or instinct) to be threatening without the conscious mind ever being involved.

fast... way faster than deliberate action... far from "instantaneous"

continuing...


111 posted on 02/06/2006 10:22:41 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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