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To: Heyworth
I guess we'll continue to differ. Lincoln is emphatic, 'This is a most valuable,-- most sacred right--a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world."

I can't beleive that Lincoln considers war to a a sacred right, nor can I believe that he's an advocate for massive revolts/wars across the globe. Anyone desiring world war would be insane.

356 posted on 02/17/2006 4:47:18 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: 4CJ
I can't beleive that Lincoln considers war to a a sacred right, nor can I believe that he's an advocate for massive revolts/wars across the globe. Anyone desiring world war would be insane.

Do you also believe that when Jefferson says, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." he's only talking about metaphorical blood? That when Patrick Henry says, "Give me liberty or give me death" he's doesn't mean actual death? Lincoln came immediately after the Age of Revolutions and knew exactly what Revolution and Rebellion meant. I can only think of one bloodless revolution that Lincoln would know of (the Glorious Revolution of 1688), and at least a dozen bloody ones, from France to Mexico to Haiti to the Bolivarian campaigns in South America. And of course the foundation story of the United States is one of blood and battle.

Again, look at Locke. Or look at the Anastaplo case in the USSC, especially Justice Black's dissent.

357 posted on 02/17/2006 11:44:39 AM PST by Heyworth
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