Posted on 02/03/2006 11:10:47 AM PST by presidio9
We don't know where this took place- this could have been a place where there were very few blacks around, never mind a black church or community.
??? Better tell all the people adopting Korean, Latin American and African kids that, I'm sure they'd be happy to get a few bucks back to help raise those non-white kids.
There are lots of conservatives and lots of libertarians on FR, and lots of disagreement about what constitutes a "conservative" or a "libertarian". Not everyone defines "conservative" as "anti-abortion". And not all libertarians are pro-choice (for that matter, neither are all leftist-socialists). Personally, I am interested in conserving and reclaiming the liberty guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Just because it was illegal at the time, doesn't mean that an individual worker did not lie to her and say they couldn't take a biracial child. She was what 18, 19 or so at the time and probably would not have known any better.
No profit in placing U.S. born non-white babies in the U.S. And no profit on placing black babies in the U.S. no matter where they were born. I don't believe for a second that anyone is turning anything even remotely resembling a profit from placing African-born black babies into adoptive homes in the U.S. The very few Asian babies that are born in the U.S. and not wanted by their biological mothers/parents are almost all placed by non-profit ethnic community groups and ethnic churches.
This certainly is way too PC to be real. Having worked in crisis pregnancy agencies, I can't recall one adoption agency that would turn away a bi-racial baby. They're making this stuff up.
A college student in 1973 would have been even more aware than the average American about federal civil rights laws.
Such a claim would certainly not have passed the average 1973 college student's smell test.
Are you suggesting that attitudes towards having/adopting black/white biracial or black children was the same in 1973 as it is today?
I concede that there may have been an agency, even several, that rebuffed this girl. But even if she had to travel a couple of hundred miles to find another agency, a black church, or a black family, she would have done that if she had wanted to have the baby and do the right thing. Plus, there are good people (black and white) you can turn to even in neighborhoods that seem unfriendly to minorities. For example, are we supposed to believe that if she'd gone to priest at a Catholic church -- or a minister at a Lutheran church, etc, -- she would have been turned away? I don't buy her story.
I'm guessing you've never tried to adopt. You jump through many hoops and pay alot of money and you still aren't guaranteed a baby, of any color. It's been that way for the last twenty years. The problem is so many people do kill their babies instead of giving them life and a family that loves them. Many people now pay the mother's expenses while shes pregnant just so they can adopt her baby. Many of them give birth and then decide to keep the baby. I know a couple that this has happened to.Also in the early 70s even in junior high the school was promoting birth control even to us very young girls. If this woman was too stupid in college to use birth control, I understand how she can tell this tall tell and expect people to believe it. She thinks we're all dumb like her.
Reading comprehension problem? Where is there an agency making a PROFIT placing non-white babies for adoption in the U.S. Not admitting they're making a profit (since legally they all have to pretend they're "non-profit"), but actually making a profit. Check around and see what type of agencies have white newborns available and what type of agencies have black newborns available, and inquire about what the out of pocket expense to adopting parents would be for each one. A year or two ago, some black activist tried to make a big self-serving scandal out of this. He had no trouble documenting that agencies were charging many times as much for a white baby as for a black baby, which he claimed was illegal racial discrimination. The average cost for a black baby was nowhere near enough to cover an agency's actual expenses.
tall tell=tall tale
What kind of perverted thinking leads anyone to believe that abortions are an acceptable alternative to foster care?
For some yes and others no. I will remind you that the 1973 date is based on speculation and is the earliest possible date that her story could make any sense. I doubt the date as much as I doubt her story.
Most states and agencies are still very reluctant to place black babies with white parents, which often makes it difficult for white parents to adopt even when they're willing to adopt a black baby. A black couple wanting to adopt a black baby will have one in the time it takes to complete a basic home study and the legal paperwork. Completely healthy black babies are probably hard to come by, though, since abortion is generally accepted in black communities, and as a result most of the unwanted black babies being born are born to dysfunctional mothers with substance abuse problems.
I mostly agree with you, although I think you overestimate the amount of resources the average college student has available to him or her. I am not sure I completely believe her story either- many of these abortion stories tend to be self-serving, assigning blame for the abortion on everyone else but the woman herself. It is likely what she said happened, but it is also likely that she feared that if she had the baby, people would find out a) she got pregnant out of wedlock and b) she had sex with a black guy.
Foreign adoptions aren't cheaper. They are popular in the US because a child can be obtained a lot faster, and because there is virtually zero possibility of a biological parent resurfacing and getting a court to void the adoption and yank a terrified toddler out of the arms of the only parents s/he has ever known. If anti-abortion activists would turn their considerable energy toward fixing the barbaric adoption laws in this country, a lot more women would freely choose to carry pregnancies to term and give up the babies for adoption. An even bigger problem than the "reclaims" are the children who languish for years in the foster cares system, desperately wanting to be adopted, but can't be because courts refuse to terminate the parental rights of their chronically imprisoned and rehabbing parents.
Exactly. :)
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