Posted on 02/02/2006 10:59:32 AM PST by presidio9
Of course, we should be doing both to Bill Clinton as well.
I was saving that for John Kerry.
But I thought women were exactly the same as men minus one appendage.
Precisely the point I was trying to make. Your post was much more eloquent than mine.
"Innocence" is not a matter for the courts, no matter how sloppy we might all get with our terminology.
Problem is, once you're "cured", even if you're on meds, they have to turn you loose - you were found "not guilty" after all.
----She should have at the very LEAST been given life with out the possibility of parole. This woman was clearly 3 sandwiches short a picnic and to allow her bail for ANY reason says that those babies' rights were not as important as their murderers' are. This case reminds me a little of Susan Smith, that drove her car into the water and left her babies to drown strapped in their carseats. She killed 2 and gets a stiff sentence. Yates kills 5 and gets molly-coddled. What messege are they sending? If you kill in bulk, you get 50% off of your conviction?
"Problem is, once you're "cured", even if you're on meds, they have to turn you loose - you were found "not guilty" after all."
I agree. Society should never take a chance with letting them out.
That said, generally speaking (there are notable exceptions), they are never released. In fact, several studies have shown that those who found "not guilty by reason of insanity" (the studies covered all kinds of crimes, not just murder) spend MORE time in confinement than those who are found guilty of comparable crimes.
The solution in murder cases, since murder has no statute of limitations, is simply for the civil court to agree to indefinite civil committment and the prosecutor hold off on prosecution until such (unlikely) time as the nutso is pronounced "not a danger to himself or others."
That way, 99% stay in the looney bin forever and the 1% that do get out, get tried.
Yates is clearly a sick individual who had a well documented history of mental illness. I am in no way saying Yates should be excused because she is mentally ill but I do think the former witness's testimony clouded her trial and she should be given a new trial based upon the facts of the case. I also lay some of the blame on family members, particularly her husband, who knew this woman was not stable yet did nothing to intervene on behalf of his wife or five children.
Yep. It's true. And they have few priviledges too.
I read what you said and was elaborating a bit. No need to be so touchy. I didn't imply you said anything otherwise.
Of course nobody will admit that! It's not true, that's why. Just ask the esteemed Dr. Thomas Cruise.
/sarc
Got to love the replies on this thread.
Andrea Yates should spend the rest of her life in a mental institution. My opinion. Hubby and her(diminished capacity), rejected doctor's opinions that she should not have any more children, due to post partum depression already present. The husband also rejected the electroshock therapy offered. On one hand, Andrea could have actually ended up a vegetable, otoh, those babies would still be alive.
Myself, and others who have discussed this, have watched her husband's demeanor during this tragedy. We find his behavior rather odd.
Parnham having presser now. He said NO money was put up for the $200,000 bond today. He said that the bail bondsman agreed to put up the money for his costs only. Parnham thanks him for his charity.
Rusty said earlier today that he thinks it's great that she's out and can be in the mental health facility where she will get the treatment she needs and "we" can all learn from studies of her mental illness.
I'm drawing a blank on Rusty's marital status right now--did he or did he not recently re-marry?
Thanks for sharing your opinion with the thread. Have a great day.
Rusty remarried? I didn't hear about that. I'm glad that the bondsman did this. Mrs. Yates needs help for the rest of her life, and I'm keeping an eye on her husband. He should have had her either given IV meds, had her put in an institution, or hired nurses...imo. We can all learn from people like Rusty Yates and Michael Schiavo.
No, I can't find that Rusty actually has. I was asking if someone else knew.
I pay as little attention as possible to him, but something stuck in my head about "remarriage" and I think now it must have just been his comments when he divorced Andrea, saying he "wanted to" remarry -- and have more children.
He had a girl friend, but I can't find anything online that says he has tied the knot. There's no one else listed as living at his address and apartment number, as of January 2006.
What struck me today with all the discussion about Andrea's release, was all the "just trust me" being thrown about. If she were a man, I doubt seriously that so much "just trust me" would have been allowed.
Everyone knows she is very mentally ill, but "just trust me" that she'll be taken to the Rusk mental hospital and "just trust me" that she'll voluntarily commit herself and "just trust me" that the $20,000 bond will be paid -- that was incredible to see in a court room!
He used to have a website that was all about the crime and how he stood by his wife. Wonder if it's still up? I'll try to find it..........
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