[mad_as_he$$]

During the Southeast Asia War Games I popped a VC at about 125 yards with an M-16A1 FMJ 56 grain(I think)three times, he kept coming and coming and coming shooting his AK. It was clear he wanted to get a gringo that day. Well, I was clip deficient and everybody else was busy. So I drew my 45, thumbed the hammer and popped him high in the chest at about 10 yards, it knocked him flat on his back and stopped him cold. When the smoke cleared we examined him and found that I had tagged him three times in the lower torso with the M-16 and ALL three had gone through and out. It should be noted that the 45's were not regulation (my Uncle's special brew of hot round and hollow point, And for the people that are going to write and say that a HP will not work in a 45 - all's I can say is I am here now.)

The next day I made two changes. Since the group I was with had some latitude in weapons choice I switched to MAC-10 in 45 and I ALWAYS kept my 45 cocked and locked.

[SauronOfMordor]

A guy I knew in my younger days was in WW2. He said he shot a german soldier in the face at close range. The guy didn't have a head any more

[calex59]

Yes, to the .45. It will put them down and it works well with hollow points if you know what you are doing. I just never trusted the 5.56 round and hated it when I had to trade in my M-14(which I carried for some time.)For close combat give me a shot gun or a .45 cal submachine gun and a 1911, they didn't call the Thompson a broom trench for nothing! I got out soon after I traded the M-14 for the M-16 but still have an affection for large slow moving rounds and large fast moving rounds!

Elmer Keith was my source for many years until he died. He thought the 30-06 was a varmit round!:) However, some of his ideas were correct, large rounds put things down better than small calibers do.

[AnAmericanMother]

My dad says the same thing about the .45 in WWII, and a friend says the same thing about the .45 in Korea.

Dad took a long shot at the limit of practical range and it still knocked the guy off his feet. My friend said the only direction any ChiCom went when hit by the .45 was DOWN.

[centurion316]

During the Southeast Asia War Games I popped a VC at about 125 yards with an M-16A1 FMJ 56 grain(I think)three times, he kept coming and coming and coming shooting his AK

Well done. I found that the Claymore was the weapon of choice in such circumstances, but that was just me.