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To: editor-surveyor; PatrickHenry; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; Baraonda; BereanBrain
Always consider the source.

And check facts. Here is a rebuttal.

The Seattle Weekly Proves There Is Nothing New Under The Sun

Great is the power of steady misrepresentation; but the history of science shows that fortunately this power does not long endure. -- Charles Darwin, Origin of Species
The Seattle Weekly's Roger Downey has labored and produced a mouse. And, his mouse is a laughable, funhouse-mirror distortion of reality. But what else can you expect when you realize that he didn’t actually do any research, but essentially just cuts and pastes crazy assertions and outrageous claims from our critic's blogs. Even though in the constellation of Seattle journalism and news publications the Weekly is (generously) seen as a lesser light, this piece demands a response.

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The Weekly’s piece (not unlike its predecessors at Wired and Salon) is full of unfounded assertions and -- in spite of the second hand sources even-- lazy errors of fact.

Here are just a few of them:

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Let me emphasize one question of "fact". From the Seattle article.

The mail room was also the copy center, and a part-time employee named Matt Duss was handed a document to copy. It was not at all the kind of desperately dull personnel-processing document Duss was used to feeding through the machine. For one thing, it bore the rubber-stamped warnings "TOP SECRET" and "NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION." Its cover bore an ominous pyramidal diagram superimposed on a fuzzy reproduction of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel rendition of God the Father zapping life into Adam, all under a mysterious title: The Wedge.

No stamps on the cover page. Check the other pages,( http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0605/discovery-wedge.php) no stamps on them.

In addition, check for yourselves, at Whitworth college in spokane(unless there is more than one such) here, http://www.whitworth.edu/Directory/FacultyStaff/index.aspx, for Stephen C. Meyer. There is one Stephen(Flegel), one Meyer(Susan), and 3 Stevens(none Meyer), but NO Stephen C. Meyer.

OH RATS! I found a stamped copy of the Wedge document cover page. I got it from Bill Burkett at the Kinko's here in Abilene.

 
TOP SECRET

NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION


351 posted on 02/02/2006 8:08:23 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: AndrewC

Thank you so much for the rebuttal!


357 posted on 02/02/2006 9:59:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: AndrewC
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is not still teaching at Whitworth College; he resigned four years ago (that’s why we don’t list this on our website).

Then maybe Dr. Stephen C. Meyer ought to update his bio on the Access Research Network.

Contrary to Judge John E. Jones' opinion, there are at least seven peer-reviewed articles supportive of intelligent design, as Roger (and the judge) could have seen by reading our amicus brief in the Dover case, or check our website.

Well Dadgumit! Why didn't Prof. Behe say so?

Q. And, in fact, there are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred, is that correct?

A. That is correct, yes.
-- Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District Trial transcript: Day 12 (October 19), AM Session, Part 1

... as some secret plan (now expanded by Downey to a "founding document") actually shows how puerile and paranoid Darwinists are when faced with opposition. Downey reports that the paper was stamped "TOP SECRET" and "NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION" ...

Yeah. They did overdo that ...

This isn't just wrong, it is stunningly wrong. There was no such conference about ID at Baylor University in 1992.

True enough. It was at SMU

ID originated long before that, ...

Thomas Aquinus and William Paley sure think so.

... at numerous places where scientists like Dean Kenyon, Charles Thaxton, Walter Bradley and others were developing and researching the theory. Discovery's Center for Science & Culture was started in 1995 not 1998.

Yep. 1995.

But psst ...
I wouldn't say that too loud, guys ... I mean, Don'cha think seven research papers in eleven years is kinda thin?

362 posted on 02/03/2006 5:57:55 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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