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Bush is kicking away his base
Townhall.com ^ | Jan 30, 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 01/31/2006 11:05:56 AM PST by robowombat

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To: buckeye49

cool :)


681 posted on 01/31/2006 5:45:55 PM PST by MikefromOhio (")
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To: jla

Phyllis KNOWS how important 2008 is.She will not settle for anyone not to the right of President Bush.She knows this might be our(and her) last chance.She will play a huge role in 08.


682 posted on 01/31/2006 5:53:03 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: MikeinIraq

It's time!! Go Titans! :) Sorry, couldn't help it.


683 posted on 01/31/2006 5:56:15 PM PST by buckeye49
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To: MikeA

Not increasing Government spending by 33% is what we want.
"As government expands Freedom contracts" PERIOD.
Phyllis Schlafly is a hero and an American treasure.YOU OWE her more than you could ever repay her.


684 posted on 01/31/2006 5:57:35 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: buckeye49

I wish he was still with the Titans though....

I would have been able to watch him play one more time in Cleveland this past year...


685 posted on 01/31/2006 5:58:31 PM PST by MikefromOhio (")
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To: jla; Howlin

Unfortunatly to the socialists of all parties,Mrs.Schlafly has been a stalwart for 40 years at keeping the American dream alive.She has one more great fight left in her:2008!


686 posted on 01/31/2006 6:02:29 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.
But I would be more than happy to walk alongside such a grand lady, and
devoted American, as is Mrs. Schlafly, in advancing our goal of a more
perfect union."

687 posted on 01/31/2006 6:50:53 PM PST by jla
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To: robowombat

Our President just betrayed his base in the "State of the Union" by not even addressing the issue of illegal immigration. THE FIGHT IS ON!!! I would suggest that the Senate pay heed. Civil war in this nation is not out of the question. I have never seen such a chicken shit!!!!


688 posted on 01/31/2006 7:07:11 PM PST by Sterco
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To: pollyannaish
The plans proposed so far by people in your camp will not happen—ever.

So we are just going to keep strip-searching 80 year old grannies at the airport and hope any future or existing terrorists just ignore the border?

I will tell you what my plan is, and it doesn't even have to involve building a wall, and it doesn't break the Constitution (which I dearly love).

My plan is simple:

1)Treat illegal aliens like the criminals they are.

2) Make the management and owners of companies that hire illegal aliens responsible - throw them in jail for providing comfort and aid for criminals - the same as if you or I hid a bank robber from the police, because they are providing the ability for a criminal to get by in this society.

Plenty of people wait patiently for literally years to legally enter this country. Time and again Cubans fleeing a communist dictatorship, risking their lives, are turned back, and yet our President wants to make the ones who walk over the border "guest" workers.

If you remove the economic incentives that President Bush, the GOP leadership, and various large businesses and industries want to give these illegal aliens, then they will have no reason for coming up here - they come here because the money is here.

Furthermore, I very much believe in an old saying "spare the rod, spoil the child" (which came from Proverbs 13:23 or 24, not that I want to bring religion into this - I'm just providing a context of how old).

The child in this case is the GOP. We have spoiled the child, by allowing them to run wild with government spending, power, etc. We keep on rewarding their aberrant behavior by electing them back into office.

It's time to pick up the rod before this child stops listening to the adults (voters) altogether.

Applying the rod in this case, means taking our votes somewhere else. After a few elections, one of two things will happen - either the child, or GOP in this case, will realize we are done indulging in their behavior and that they should get back to a Conversative stance, or they will move further left to pickup votes to offset our leaving.

If they move even further left, they will lose more voters, which means that a third party becomes very viable at this point. If they come back to the Conservative fold, then we've made our point, and they'll be careful in the future.

We cannot afford to allow this party or this country to keep on going the way it's going - I have maybe 20-30 more years left, and maybe things won't change much in what's left of my lifetime, but I sure as hell don't want to think about the kind of country that my descendants will have 60 years from now, at the rate we are going.

If we are not careful now, what freedoms we still have are liable to be a fairytale to children and young adults 60 or 70 years from now.

This country has had one revolution, and one civil war already. I don't want my great-grandchildren to have to fight another.
689 posted on 01/31/2006 7:59:11 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Your plan sounds reasonable and while I disagree with your proposed method of realigning the GOP, I believe our goals are the same.

Now, as far as fighting goes: As long as time lasts, many, many more revolutions and civil wars will be fought, many risks face people of freedom, and that will never end. We will NEVER get to rest from that work.

Freedom is not the natural state of the world. Neither is peace. In my opinion, when it comes to our children and grandchildren, our best bet is to make sure they value the things that make America great, including freedom. We need to teach them to value them enough that they are willing to fight as hard to preserve them as we are.

They must NEVER be under the illusion that there has been a war to end all wars, or that they can relax and take those things for granted. If we teach them that it has been lost already.

Anyway, thank you for your thoughtful response. I genuinely appreciate it.
690 posted on 01/31/2006 8:10:36 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: BobinIL

Its not a majority of Conservative Justices yet. We still need one more solid conservative to get a Majority. As it stands now its 4-4-1, with Kennedy being the "swing voter."


691 posted on 01/31/2006 8:30:56 PM PST by old republic
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To: Sterco

why would i not like alito when it comes to immigration? i've only commented on bush's immigration policy. the judiciary's role in the matter is a whole different ballgame.


692 posted on 01/31/2006 8:59:27 PM PST by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pelham

Perhaps you need to read some of the threads around here and the solutions therein before attacking the Unpanicked.


693 posted on 01/31/2006 9:56:10 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Sterco

Congratulations all progress is appreciated.


694 posted on 01/31/2006 9:57:34 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

All but the deliberately obtuse understand Bush was referring to a New World Order without communism. Remember the USSR and the threat it posed? Guess what? In the New World Order it is NOT a threat anymore.

But crackpot interpretations derived from tea leaves is much more intriguing.


695 posted on 01/31/2006 9:59:52 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: TheLion

I like my figure of ONE BILLION better being derived very scientifically throught the formual - (imagination)*(hysteria)= ONE BILLION.

And the worst news is their babies are American citizens.


696 posted on 01/31/2006 10:03:31 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: BobinIL

We'll need one more conservative justice to have a majority.

Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Thomas v. Ginsburg, Souter, Breyer, Stevens

Let's hope that swing-voter Kennedy swings back to his conservative roots.


697 posted on 01/31/2006 10:06:18 PM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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To: jla

Few did more to prevent a "perfect Union" than Jefferson. Creating the RAT party was terribly devisive.


698 posted on 01/31/2006 10:06:43 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Gipper08

LoL talk about the tail wagging the dog. Shafely has few followers. She is far too out on the fringe for any real influence. There is little chance of electing a president to the right of Bush as the last two elections show. The Ultras keep forgetting that the majority of Americans do not go for their program. They will happily elect another glib empty suit like Clinton only running a doofus and a traitor allowed the GOP to win.

Those who understand politics understand that such changes as are needed cannot be obtained except through patient progress.

Keeping the electorate on board is paramount to success.


699 posted on 01/31/2006 10:12:49 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: jla; Howlin

I just plotzed myself. Undoubtedly the "Ownage" of the Year.


700 posted on 01/31/2006 10:20:46 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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