Posted on 01/29/2006 6:17:41 PM PST by demlosers
HILLARY Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign is running
Leon Panetta, Mr Clinton's former chief of staff, said there was "nervousness" among Democrats about backing such a controversial figure at a time when many Americans believe President George W.Bush has polarised the country.
Like Mr McCurry, he wondered whether Ms Clinton was "the kind of lightning rod that would stimulate all of the opposition" and resurrect the "hate side of the political agenda".
"Ultimately the issue is: do we turn to something new? We've been through the Clintons, we've been through the Gores, we've been through the Kerrys, all of whom are known quantities in politics," Mr Panetta said.
Mr Bush described Ms Clinton as "formidable" in an interview ahead of his annual State of the Union address tomorrow. Republicans are determined not to underestimate her voter appeal in 2008, particularly as they are short of well-known candidates. "This is an unusual year because this is the first time there hasn't been a kind of natural successor in the party," Mr Bush said.
The Democrats have a rising star in Mark Warner, who recently stepped down as governor of the conservative state of Virginia. His proven appeal to moderate voters is attracting Democrats of all shades who are anxious to win, but he remains little known on the national scene.
The doubts about Ms Clinton's electoral viability have surfaced as she romps towards re-election as New York senator this year.
She has already seen off one Republican challenger, whose campaign was reduced to tatters, and last week dispatched another, Ed Cox, the son-in-law of former president Richard Nixon. He turned down his party's increasingly desperate pleas to stand.
Ms Clinton's modest success with voters in small-town upstate New York is taken by some as proof she can win over conservatives, although according to last week's poll, 90per cent of Republicans would definitely not vote for her.
New Republic magazine, the left-of-centre weekly, argues in its current issue that the voters of rural New York bear little comparison to diehard Republican voters in the south and midwest.
"She is going to have to bring something else to the national stage," it warned.
Ms Clinton's hawkish stance on the war on terror, Iraq and Iran has infuriated the anti-war movement. Molly Ivins, a left-wing commentator, wrote last week that she would not support her for president.
"Enough," she fumed. "Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone."
Mr McCurry believes that, contrary to popular belief, Ms Clinton is a conviction politician rather than "a wild-eyed liberal", but says that were she to become president her divisive reputation could get in the way of her program for government.
"It would not be a comfortable place to be hunkered in a bunker for four to eight years getting pelted by the Republicans with rotten tomatoes," he said.
Ms Clinton is waiting for her Senate race to be over in November before making a final decision on whether to stand. There is no doubt she would love to return to the White House, this time with Bill as "first gentleman".
The further away he is from the centre of power, the more Mr Clinton has gained in popularity. If he returns to the fray, the cash-for-pardons scandal at the end of his presidency and the minutiae of his sex life are likely to be re-examined. And after two Bushes in the White House, two President Clintons could be regarded as overly dynastic.
In the Senate, Ms Clinton has forged political alliances on such issues as the environment and healthcare with Senator John McCain, a 2008 Republican contender. According to Mr McCurry, she is enjoying the role of consensus-maker.
"She clearly understands there is a real need to re-establish some sense of bipartisan co-operation and has to ask herself: 'Could I be that kind of leader?'," he said.
"That takes you to the question the polls raise, which is: will she get that opportunity?"
The Sunday Times
Polarization = DIMs in the minority
Bipartisanship = DIMs in majority with country club Pubbies on their knees
Hillary is no dummy. She knows she can't win in '08 in a two person race. Her max is about 45 percent. Bill could manager 49 percent in a good year, with no war and a great (Reagan-created) economy. Just like her husband did twice, she will have to rely on a third party candidate to siphon off 6 percent or so of the GOP vote. It will either be McCain storming off the stage after he is rejected by GOP voters in the primary, or some other RINO, seduced by the siren call of the media to run because the GOP is just too conservative. See that happen, and beware. If it doesn't, rejoice in the knowledge that Hillary will go down in flames, winning far fewer states than Kerry did.
And to think the smartest woman in the world thought the presidency was hers for the taking! Bwahahahaha....
You are so right. Ole Hillary will burn down the party for power. The gal wants power badly. The UN is calling to her and she has a alot of extreme right wing conspiracy folks to get even with. ; )
If Hitlary thought voting by her "constituents" really mattered, she would have outlawed elections.
Democrats have no choice. This battle will be done on the leadership level. Right now Hitlary controls the democrat party not Dean.
Har!! I suppose it's no surprise that in Australia they don't know what John McCain is.
IMHO,( and I have my asbestos suit and tin foil hat on as I type this) Mclame will be Queen Hillary's VP. A Mclame and J F'n K ticket wouldn't have worked, because they would have constantly tried to out "war-hero" each other, instead of working together.
Queen Hillary NEEDS Mclame to cover her behind on the "weak on defense" portion of her resume, it'll be a "kum-bay-ya" ticket, and all the "Mclame-iacs" (ie squishy rino middle-of-the-road voters and the MSM) will go running to embrace it.
When Mclame FINALLY figures out that he ain't NEVER gonna be the 2008 Rep candidate for POTUS, he'll go for "revenge" and accept the Queen's "offer". VP is better than nothing, and Mclame can play his "I'm a war hero so I'm right until death" before every camera in the MSM while Queen Hillary goes almost invisible all the way to the White House.
This is the scenario that worries me. Hillary easily takes the Democratic nomination. McCain easily takes the Republican nomination.
Then something happens which causes the McCain campaign to self-destruct, and Hillary wins.
IMHO, McCain is simply such a good communicator in interview situations that IMHO no other Republican is going to be able to stop him in the primaries. But I'm not sure if he can go the distance.
Nope, been through the Kennedy's too - two dead ones and one semi-dead.
He seems to be a Republican of courage, a rare breed indeed in the Empire State!
Hillary's ranting speeches are only missing being given in German.
One of the reasons we moved to NC. And we are Presyterians.
Better get a more "reasonable" ticket that can win!
Hillary can't get close to 50% of the popular vote, but she can win the way Bill did in 1992, if a third-party candidate draws off enough votes from the Republican nominee.
Pretty, perky, bouncy and with a mellifluous voice, her thighness contemplates meeting the peons at the fund-raiser.
Yes, it was such a negativity that the avg. middle-of-the-road Dem (NOT the far-lefties) was scared off. Dean came off like a loony. Thank goodness it happened sooner rather than later.
I disagree with this leftist article re the emergence of possibles for the Rep. position of candidate for the Presidency. To prove the nation's awareness of two of these figures, one need only use a single name for each:
Condi
Newt
Either would result in Broomhilda being roadkill - a fitting fate for the witch spelled with a capital B.
"But the MSM clearly wants one of two candidates....... Hillary or McCain."
Ok by me but which goes for P and which for VP and what team are we going to run on the Republican side?
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