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Posted on 01/29/2006 10:06:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: ContraryMary
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:45:58 AM PST
by
tertiary01
(Dems ..the party that repeats history's mistakes over and over and....)
To: HairOfTheDog
I like a smart man. We do not want the government involved in these decisions.>>
There were many smart Nazis, and many smart cowards that let them run amok.
Give me a man who is foolish but just any day of the week over the smart and evil. Or smart and weak.
To: HairOfTheDog
We will ALL die.>>>
But not violently at the hands of our neighbors, heirs, and insurance companies. Unless we act like woosies in the face of murderous greed.
To: tertiary01
How many times did I talk about our representatives in government?
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:48:33 AM PST
by
ContraryMary
(New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Oh really... must you play the Nazi card so soon?
45
posted on
01/29/2006 10:49:14 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: ContraryMary
And just how does simple majority mandates figure into your Republic scenario? I'm trying to follow your logic here.
46
posted on
01/29/2006 10:51:13 AM PST
by
tertiary01
(Dems ..the party that repeats history's mistakes over and over and....)
To: tertiary01
And when did I talk about simple majority mandates?
47
posted on
01/29/2006 10:52:03 AM PST
by
ContraryMary
(New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
To: Appalled but Not Surprised
But not violently at the hands of our neighbors, heirs, and insurance companies. Unless we act like woosies in the face of murderous greed.If this is how you see family decision making without the hand of government to protect us from our own... then I pity you.
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:53:19 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Inspite of the wishes of the PC crowd the Nazi example is the most detailed and widely acknowledged example of the contemporary death cult in our lifetimes.
49
posted on
01/29/2006 10:53:22 AM PST
by
tertiary01
(Dems ..the party that repeats history's mistakes over and over and....)
To: NormsRevenge
It was precisely "the government" in the person of Circuit Judge George Greer, who decreed that "the law of this case is that this girl will die". It was the private citizens in the person of Terri Schindler-Schiavo's parents and siblings who were prevented from effectively appealing this dictatorial decree (by the legal impossibility of getting the case ever reassigned to any other agent of the goverment, a judge, because of the way the government sets the rules).
So in fact the question is not really "should the government be involved in such cases" -- but "how in the world do you get the government from having total control"?
51
posted on
01/29/2006 10:56:51 AM PST
by
firewalk
To: tertiary01
There is no death cult.
There does seem to be a wacky cult on this forum, who would deny that for most of us, the life and death of our family members is not a vast conspiracy to kill off the inconvenient, but personal, heart wrenching, and very rightly, private.
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:57:10 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: ContraryMary
Which takes you full circle to your post #8.
53
posted on
01/29/2006 10:58:36 AM PST
by
tertiary01
(Dems ..the party that repeats history's mistakes over and over and....)
To: tertiary01
Which has nothing to do with a simple majority -- as you maintained.
54
posted on
01/29/2006 10:59:27 AM PST
by
ContraryMary
(New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
To: HairOfTheDog
Always blame the posters when the argument goes against you.
55
posted on
01/29/2006 10:59:35 AM PST
by
tertiary01
(Dems ..the party that repeats history's mistakes over and over and....)
To: wildandcrazyrussian
There will always be occasional need for a very local court to decide cases that are in dispute. That court found that in Terri's case there was no basis to overrule the long-established right of spouses to make decisions about treatment, or the decision to stop treatment, for each other.
If you wish to rewrite family and probate law to make our parents our legal guardian even in adulthood, you can argue that, but I don't think it'll be a popular or workable idea.
56
posted on
01/29/2006 11:01:43 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: tertiary01
Excuse me? Who started with the name calling?
57
posted on
01/29/2006 11:02:23 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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I think it's cruel to starve someone to death.
If someone expresses a wish to die in these circumstances,
why isn't it kinder to administer something to kill them quickly.
Is that murder?
It achieves the same result.
58
posted on
01/29/2006 11:16:33 AM PST
by
firewalk
To: HairOfTheDog
Oh really... must you play the Nazi card so soon?>>
Yes. 1=1.
To: HairOfTheDog
If this is how you see family decision making without the hand of government to protect us from our own... then I pity you.
>>>
Think again when your greedy nephew or your insurance carrier yanks the plug from the wall.
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