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Some in Homeschooling Movement Support "De-Schooling"
www.homeschoolzone.com ^

Posted on 01/28/2006 7:49:24 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

Deschooling is the process where many of the bad socialization experiences are "cleansed" from a child who is making the transition from public/private schools into a homeschooling program.

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1 posted on 01/28/2006 7:49:24 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued
This is nonsense and will drag real homeschooling down.
2 posted on 01/28/2006 7:52:32 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Clintonfatigued
Hell, it took me years to "deschool" myself.
3 posted on 01/28/2006 7:53:38 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: Clintonfatigued
It is my understanding that unschooling is when the child is allowed to direct himself. There is no curriculum, no set subjects, nothing really structured. The child learns on his own, as he wants to, about what he wants to learn. Deschooling seems to be the term used to describe what it takes to get your child back after he has been institutionalized.

Call me crazy, but letting kids school themselves sounds like a bad idea.

4 posted on 01/28/2006 7:53:38 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

This is an offshoot of the hoomeschooling movement which is gaining support. There are differing views on it, but it's essentially a detox of the public school experience before going on to homeschooling, rather than making the transition immediately and abruptly.

It seems to be most beneficial to children who have been subjected to extensive bullying and/or unfair teachers.


5 posted on 01/28/2006 7:54:22 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: Clintonfatigued

My poor son. He didn't get any time off. I figured since he had been on vacation for 5 years that it was time to hit the books.


6 posted on 01/28/2006 7:55:17 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Clintonfatigued

It seems to be most beneficial to children who have been subjected to extensive bullying and/or unfair teachers.


This is one reason to deschool. Another is if you have a very gifted child, and they seriously need some down time, Or you will lose them all together. Usually, there IS some homeschooling involved.


7 posted on 01/28/2006 8:00:44 AM PST by Nothometoday
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To: Clintonfatigued

Deschooling, or unschooling, as it used to be called, has always seemed impractical to me. (I homeschooled for 8 years.)

If you happen to live in a state where you know your child will need to be tested each year to show they are at "grade level," I don't know how you could just sit back and let the child "choose" their own course.

In certain subjects, history, reading, and science, I did follow my son's lead on what we taught each year. But on math, grammar, and writing, it's just like many things in life, a discipline that must be learned, whether you want to or not.


8 posted on 01/28/2006 8:01:54 AM PST by dawn53
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To: randog
the child is allowed to direct himself.

This sounds like the kind of crap they teach in ed schools.

9 posted on 01/28/2006 8:02:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: CindyDawg

I'm considering home schooling my oldest son(youngest isn't in school yet). He is ADHD and stuggling so bad, and no he is not medicated, although he may end up being, i haven't decided. Anyhow, his teacher can't fuction with him in her class and I feel my son's self esteem is so low and he feels like no one likes him in his class. I hate that and don't want that for him. Both my sister home school their kids and I'm considering just yanking my son out and see how homeschool goes for a while. He needs some one on one attn and more focus.


10 posted on 01/28/2006 8:02:59 AM PST by Halls (Dallas County, Texas, but my heart is in East Texas!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

What a bunch of crapola this is. No wonder why kids are so screwed up today.


11 posted on 01/28/2006 8:08:05 AM PST by JaggedEdge
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To: randog
It is my understanding that unschooling is when the child is allowed to direct himself. There is no curriculum, no set subjects, nothing really structured. The child learns on his own, as he wants to, about what he wants to learn.

This sounds like what they are given in a public school. Bad idea......

12 posted on 01/28/2006 8:08:21 AM PST by NRA1995 (GOOOOOOO STEELERS!!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
This sounds like the kind of crap they teach in ed schools.

Yeah, right - the ed schools teach teachers to "let go" and "let the child direct his own education."

13 posted on 01/28/2006 8:09:14 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: JaggedEdge

Did you ever wonder why 90+ percent of first graders think that they are good learners, and that 90+ percent of high schooler think they are NOT?


14 posted on 01/28/2006 8:10:39 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: randog
It is my understanding that unschooling is when the child is allowed to direct himself. There is no curriculum, no set subjects, nothing really structured. The child learns on his own, as he wants to, about what he wants to learn.

I thnk what this overlooks is that only children with certain types of learning styles will do well in this environment. The gifted child with the ability to teach himself may thrive - but others require a more structured learning experience. I like the idea of "unschooling" in principle, since it's essentially what I did for myself while learning nothing of consequence in school during my final eight years or so. But it won't work for all children.

15 posted on 01/28/2006 8:12:12 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: nmh

I know someone who was unschooled very well, a US soldier who was in one of the first to go to Iraq. I know another studying in the IVY league. I don't think either has dragged the HS movement down but the NEA and the Dems would like to smear the HS movement and use this modus operandi of homeschooling to vilify everyone involved. The whole idea is to renew the natural curiosity and joie de vie in learning while allowing healing. When the public schools fail, there are plenty of walking wounded.


16 posted on 01/28/2006 8:12:23 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: randog
letting kids school themselves sounds like a bad idea.

Did you ever wonder why young kids are so eager to learn stuff, and public-schooled teenagers have to be bribed / threatened / cajoled?

Is it possible, just possible, that schooling, as it exists now, crushes the desire to learns stuff out of you?

17 posted on 01/28/2006 8:13:08 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Domestic Church

Then you don't understand what "unschooling is".


18 posted on 01/28/2006 8:13:50 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: randog

We homeshcool and maybe I can shed a little light here. A child seems to learn a lot better when they are interested in a subject. For instance, our daughter is nuts over the prairie days and settlers. You can let her take off on this subject and bring in aspects of each traditional school subject in relation to this topic. For example, reading is accomplished by reading materials related to the subject. History is a given - but so is civics and geography. You can teach math using this as a backdrop in creating examples. You can teach literature by using books about the period in history. Grammer and spelling can be taught using examples from this area of interest.

The idea is to break down the structure and give a little more freedom to teach what needs to be learned by using areas of interest of the child. Another type of unschooling that we have used in unit studies. We used the Little House books as a basis for unit studies. Once again, we were able to teach a variety of subjects using the books as a backdrop.

I hope this makes sense. But, it has been very effective for us to use a curriculum for each child that has a lot of room for what interests each child. It's just easier to teach an interest kid.


19 posted on 01/28/2006 8:14:24 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: Clintonfatigued
There is an excellent book by Grace Llewellyn, called the "Teenage Liberation Handbook", or "How to Quit School and Get a Real Education".

She recommends a "vacation" after withdrawing from school, as a "detox" mechanism.

20 posted on 01/28/2006 8:15:00 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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