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To: AmericaUnited
Ok, I read all that so let's cut to the chase... Is the Sun going to burn out soon

There is a school of thought which asserts that the Sun cycles between two states -- fusion, and non-fusion -- and that it is currently in the non-fusing state.

According to this theory, the Sun, while it is in its fusing state, heats up, and expands, until it reaches the point at which it is no longer producing enough pressure (due to gravity) to sustain the fusion reaction. It then stops fusing, begins cooling off, and thus contracts. When it contracts to a certain point, fusion begins again, and the cycle repeats.

The evidence generally given in support of this theory consists of the cyclical ice ages, and, the "Missing Neutrinos". (The Sun, if it was fusing, would be producing more neutrinos than are currently being detected. That's right -- according to this theory, the Sun is not in its fusion mode, and we are headed toward an ice age -- one which, according to various "bits of history" we are somewhat overdue for.)

The question of "What about the missing neutrinos?" is one that we are told is answered -- by stuff that to an ignoramus like me :) sounds a wee bit too esoteric, a bit too hopeful, a bit too... unconvincing.

My guess is that the jury is still out on the theory. But to answer your question, if the Sun is in a non-fusing condition, it's only temporary. Stick around a few thousand years and everything'll be fine again (but stock up on SPF-off-the-charts for when that happens!)

36 posted on 01/28/2006 2:30:40 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
If there were no fusion, there would be no neutrinos at all and the sun would collapse into a white dwarf immediately.

Star do go through cycles like that - when one fuel depletes and if the star is massing enough to fuse the former waste product. The transitions, such as from fusing hydrogen to fusing helium called the helium flash, are explosive and called novae. The Sun is not sufficiently massive to fuse helium. So it will fuse hydrogen in a shell around the core which moves outward to find fresh hydrogen and grows thinner. The larger the shell, the more heat it produces, causing the sun to gradually expand into a red giant. Comes a point when the shell is so large that the pressure above it is no longer able to sustain fusion. The end of fusion is quite sudden and the infalling of the star's outer layers immediate and catastrophic. There is a huge burst of fusion that throws off 10% of the star into interstellar space. That is a nova. In a star larger than the sun, this flash ignites fusion of helium into carbon in the star's core with a shell of renewed hydrogen into helium fusion around it and the star expands even larger than before since helium fusion is much hotter. Helium fusion does not last nearly as long as hydrogen so there are successive burnouts and reignitions of carbon, oxygen and silicon fusions in shells in stars 100 times as massive as the sun producing ultimately an iron core. Iron (and larger nuclei) fusion consume rather than produce energy. So when an iron star collapses, the infalling is not stopped but accelerated by new fusion. Heavier nuclei are produced in the last fraction of a second of the collapse and then are spewed into space in a recoil known as a supernova. All elements heavier than iron are the result of supernovae which fling a substanial part of their mass into interstellar space before the remnant settles down as a neutron star or black hole.


43 posted on 01/28/2006 4:40:38 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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