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To: x5452
humvees are already overloaded as it is - you would be trading off a huge amount of speed and gas mileage for the additional protection, not to mention the inconvenience - remember you have two doors on each side not to mention any optional hatches/doors in the rear (depending on how the humvee is configured).

I like humvees for what they are originally intended for, and while it's amazing what the troops are scrounging up and adding on to protect themselves in humvees, I think it's time to start work on a better-suited vehicle for what they are using them for.

I remember years back seeing some 4-wheeled vehicles with good armor and good clearance that were fairly maneuverable - these were basically armored cars spec'd out. This was during some NATO maneuvers in Germany, and I believe they were German or British, it's been years ago.

Do they make a smaller version of the Stryker? That would be ideal, because you could share parts between them - then again the Stryker is "Interim" (which in the military could mean they'll be around for the next 40 years).
42 posted on 01/24/2006 12:04:43 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Do they make a smaller version of the Stryker? That would be ideal, because you could share parts between them - then again the Stryker is "Interim" (which in the military could mean they'll be around for the next 40 years).

Sort of. That's the M1117 Armored Security Vehicle [ASV]

Which the military wanted to cancel so they could buy more Strykers. Though it's better armed than the Stryker [a 40mm Mk 19 grenade launcher and a .50 under armor that works] Their best use has been airfield defense and convoy escort, similar to the role of the forerunner Caddilac Gage V150 escort vehicles of Vietnam. But some US M1117s have turned up with KFOR in Kosovo, and certainly beat a maybe-armored Hummvee for such duties. In early 2004 the 984th Military Police Company in Iraq had one hit from behind by an RPG that pretty much took out the entire engine casing, but there were no deaths, no injuries.


48 posted on 01/24/2006 1:17:42 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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