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You declare him a liar on your three points. And 66% of those based on opinion, and the other 33% a distinction??

You and Bro-hood are claiming "historical fact." 66% of your evidence is one man's opinion (that only the first basic step of the story, a meeting, happened). 33% of your evidence is ignoring the difference between what Moore believes can be shown and "Darwin recanted his theory."

A historical fact is a thing for which you have abundant positive evidence.

//You and Bro-hood are claiming "historical fact."//

Actually I am not claiming more or less "historical fact" for Darwin's reacantion. I am saying your charges against Brotherhood are wrong here.

Lets be clear, the real historical fact here is that Dariwn went to the grave without any public statements written or or spoken on whether he returned to his faith and recanted his theory or not (I think I did read that he regretted his theory was made to a religion).

Also no one on your side has really addressed adequately that a person may not reveal in his heart even to close members of his family. Or maybe he wanted to but never saw the opening where he could. What I am trying to illustrate is you need to exclude many probable scenarios to conclude absolutely this never happened with Lady Hope.

You have one person (Lady Hope) that says she witnessed this in her presence and then you have some other people who were not there that say otherwise.

Look we are talking a private citizen in the late 1800's. That there is not a record of every persons movements and visits is absence of evidence not otherwise. I am not saying for certain it happened I am saying your side cant be as certain that it did not.

Really I don't have the dog in whether this event happened, it would not change much here I doubt.

I have not tried to make historical fact into a fluid definition of reality as shadow accuses from the side. Indeed I have only tried to get the standard of historical fact applied equally to both sides of this.

Now you want to talk about fluid? I'll tell you what is fluid the way your side chooses to take an analogy literally or not at your convenience, but if I hand it back that way, now I am insert pejorative. I mean you have people on your side that rejected my accounts that the Civil War happened.

On a side note;
Now Brotherhood pay no mind to all of their charges against you if you do not meet all their demands as they want them met. Among other things, they have several posters who are notorious for just bolting from a thread without ever answering your counter challenges. Somehow the other evos never notice /lol 25% sarc>

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