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Evolution study tightens human-chimp connection
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 23 January 2006 | Staff

Posted on 01/23/2006 4:31:58 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: warpcorebreach
DOn't we share most of our genome with a form of slime mold? I'm serious. Even closer to this mold than a chimp

Could you please document this claim?

141 posted on 01/23/2006 7:06:43 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Plutarch
DU will go ape over this article, as they think that comparing GWB's appearance to that of a chimp is political discussion of the highest order.

Whereas on FR, comparing Clinton to a chimp passes for intellectual comment.

142 posted on 01/23/2006 7:07:12 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: DesertSapper

"I was made in the image of God."

So, what does God look like? Like a Chinese person or a British? Perhaps Arabic, or simply a South American Indian?

Personally, I think ancient people wanted closeness to their gods. Ancient Hebrews, similary, thought God looked like them, hence the story of the man created in God's image, from soil. Christians adopted that story and Muslims did, too. But, Muslims modified to say that God did not have an image and any attempt at saying what God looks like was blasphemy. Today's Muslims believe that man was created from mud, but not in Allah's image(who does not have an image).

I don't think they teach men created from mud in Saudi Arabian universities. In some cases, they do not literally interpret their holy scriptures.


143 posted on 01/23/2006 7:08:03 PM PST by sagar
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To: PatrickHenry
Nah. Just animals, nothing like us.


144 posted on 01/23/2006 7:08:23 PM PST by Grut
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To: Revolting cat!

I hate your incessant use of photos in your posts. It's obnoxious, unecessary, unfunny, and keeps my page-load rate below instantaneous.

after checking out your previous posts, I've come to learn it ain't gonna stop.

Just had to get that off my chest. Cheers.


145 posted on 01/23/2006 7:08:24 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

146 posted on 01/23/2006 7:11:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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I'll recant this placemarker on my deathbed.
147 posted on 01/23/2006 7:11:18 PM PST by BMCDA (cdesign proponentsists - the missing link)
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To: labette

The discussion here is about evolution. Christianity is a completely unrelated topic. Why are you trying to change the subject?


148 posted on 01/23/2006 7:11:21 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: TheBrotherhood
"Yes. I have a more developed brain than a chimp. Don't look or act like a chimp. I can type and read and speak and reason - something a brainless chimp cannot do.

I do believe the question is one of being a close relative not an identical twin. We are indeed the smarter cousin but the difference is one of contingency, we happened to become upright, freeing our hands for all sorts of manipulation, large brained and had our palate change enough to facilitate language. The chimps may have been upright walkers at the point of human/chimp separation but they lost that and never developed the palate and brains we did.

Even so, chimps are capable of learning, communicating and using tools. The division between chimps and humans is one of degree not essence.

In any case the evidence of transitional fossils, morphological similarity and molecular evidence trumps your - we aren't related because we are a little better than them.

149 posted on 01/23/2006 7:11:48 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: VadeRetro
Maybe add a bit on what the model ISN'T.

I thought of that, but it was getting too long even without that stuff. I kinda decided to say what it IS, and deal with the goofy stuff another time. I donno. I'm still mulling it over.

150 posted on 01/23/2006 7:13:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Dimensio

You wouldn't get it.


151 posted on 01/23/2006 7:14:15 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: Grut

The chimps also have 5 fingers! I never knew that. God must have 5 fingers, too.


152 posted on 01/23/2006 7:14:39 PM PST by sagar
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To: whattajoke

"Look shweetheart, I don't even know what the cowbell thing means or how it got shtarted, so don't blame me!"


153 posted on 01/23/2006 7:15:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: StACase

He said we "could" be, not that it is known that we are. Leave it to a creationist to play semantic games rather than address reality.


154 posted on 01/23/2006 7:15:30 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Before I get into the real meat here, I can't beleve no one remembers:

Now, on with nailing the CRIDer's standard logical fallacies. (eyes closed -- strawman, begging the question, post hoc in the first 50).

155 posted on 01/23/2006 7:16:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: VadeRetro

Talk to yourself - always stimulating.


156 posted on 01/23/2006 7:17:53 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: PatrickHenry
Good writeup.

One suggestion: near the end, deal with the splitting of the herd. One part of the herd goes on the north side of the mountain (river, continent, etc.) while the other part goes to the south side. One part of the herd stays in the forest while the other part carefully explores the spreading grasslands.

This gives changed (and changing) conditions which can in turn speed up adaptation.

157 posted on 01/23/2006 7:17:58 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: whattajoke
I've come to learn it ain't gonna stop.

Your browser probably has a "block images from this site" control. You may find it by right-clicking on the image. I've used it for every one of that spammer's posts. Thread loads fast, and spam-free.

158 posted on 01/23/2006 7:18:59 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Coyoteman
Thanks coyoteman for helping me out with the terms and definitions. I actually knew a few of those already but not nearly to the scholarly depth that you provided.

You conclude your post with the assertion that "evolution is a theory". However, if we examine your definition of theory:

(1)A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; and

(2)An organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena

We find that evolution satisfies neither of these. It is not a well substantiated explanation of the appearance of man on earth and it explains nothing in repeatable experimental experimental terms.

If it were the explanation, WHERE THEN ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS?? Why are there no transitional life forms to point to? Did the forces of evolution exist only long enough to evolve man and then suddenly halt? Give me a break. The theory (?) of evolution is nothing but a scam.

What is it in the evolutionist psyche that enables you to ignore this fundamental flaw in your bogus theory...to live in denial of the fact that your bogus theory is full of holes and phoney??

Your ship is thinking pal. No matter how hard you try to plug the leaks with kneejerk bandaid explanations for your many failures, you're going under just like Kennedy at Chappaquidick...gurgle! gurgle! gurgle!

159 posted on 01/23/2006 7:19:30 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: StACase
The genetic evidence and the phylogenetic evidence is that both plants and animals diverged from bacteria, probably uebacteria. That divergence was perhaps 600 - 800 million years ago so our similarities, morphologically speaking are few. Genetically there are far more similarities.

You are aware, I hope, that our genome contains the remnants of bacteria and our body uses bacteria to utilize oxygen and that plants use bacteria to pull energy from the sun? Similar use for similar symbionts.

And indeed I did not just make this up, the evidence is there for those who dare to look.

160 posted on 01/23/2006 7:20:21 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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