Posted on 01/20/2006 8:18:53 AM PST by blam
I don't know; I only know about their existence. It would make a great google search.
See post #53
Interesting post..
However, you make the assertion that Mandan is "Siouxan", not Welsh..
I would respond, you are referring to modern Mandan and that it would of course be "Siouxan", as the Sioux tribes adapted the Mandan in the mid to late 1800's..
The Mandan tribes were decimated by smallpox during the late 18th and early 19th centuries..
By the time the Sioux adapted them into the Sioux nation, there were something like 1500 true Mandan left..
Any base for the original Mandan languages would have died during those plagues.. The Sioux language would have become the new base language for the survivors...
I assert that modern Mandan is an "assimilated" language, not the original Mandan..
For that matter, 600 or 700 years of assimilation with the original inhabitants of North America would have changed any original Welsh language beyond recognition..
There would be very few words that would survive from the original immigrant's native language..
Several centuries of co-existence with "native american" dialects, intermarriage with neighboring tribes, subsequent plaques wiping out the language base, adaption into a tribe with a different language,...
I'm surprised there are any similarities with Welsh at all..
The Jackson Whites were runaway Hessian soldiers, who intermarried with American indians and runaway slaves, I believe in NW New Jersey after the Revolution.
Fascinating topic. Just bought Gloria Farley' book, "In Plain Sight: Old World Records in Ancient American," 4th printing, 2000. She has spent more than 40 year traveling around the country copying rock and cave inscriptions and transmitting them to linguist Dr. Barry Fell and other scientists.
Languages (alphabets) identified include Germanic and Scandinavian runes, Ogam, Numidian and Tifinagh (old Libyan), Bronze Age Tifinag used in Northern Europe, Northern and Southern Iberian, Gaelic, and a number of others. These researchers and subjects can be found on the internet. There are also illustrations of ships, animals, gods and godesses that correspond to non American entities.
This markings are generally found not far from rivers that could be navigated by shallow draft boats. A lot were found in the SE US, so blond, blue-eyed people could easily be pre Roanoke. Some of the material appears to be as old as 4,000 years.
The Phoenicians and other Sea Peoples of the Mediterranean were very active starting around 1300 BC. As traders they kept their maps and trade routes very secret. The Cartheginians were the inheritors of this tradition. They were totally destroyed by the Roman's in the Punic Wars, and such knowledge lost.
I've read that the Greek historian Heroducus(sp) wrote about seeing records in the ruins of Carthage of the Cartheginians contact and trade with the new world.
If you really want to quibble, The Founding Fathers discovered "America". |
The Cartheginians also put up a naval blockage at Gilbraltar to keep other nations ships from following their ships to the tin mines in England.
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No, it is native to Asia only.
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