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To: doc30
Complex systems in advanced organisms depend on many biochemical steps, all of which must be in place for the system to work at all...

I take it you are dismissing this with a wave of the hand.
18 posted on 01/19/2006 5:43:49 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: carumba; doc30

That's not evidence, it's an assertion. Support it, and we can talk.


19 posted on 01/19/2006 5:49:40 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: carumba
Complex systems in advanced organisms depend on many biochemical steps, all of which must be in place for the system to work at all...

This is not evidence. THis is an arguement that lacks evidence. Sure, there are biochemical pathways that need all components to function. However, by studying the proteins and genetics involved, these pathways can be shown to be similar to other pathways in other organisms. A more complete picture is built this way and the subtractive nature of apparent complexity can be demonstrated. In other words, the IDers presume such pathways could not have evolved by adding what they call complexity. The IDer's ignore that you could have a more complicated, less efficient pathway that lost components to produce the observed, simplified pathway they use as examples. No waving of the hands to dismiss your argument. Simple observation of facts does that.

26 posted on 01/19/2006 6:21:47 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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