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'Devil wives' getting a bad rap--many husbands think they are the cat's meow
asahi.com ^ | 01/14/2006 | haruko ishii, The Asahi Shimbun

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:55:00 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: RockinRight
Tall chicks don't like short guys.

I have no idea what you're talking about. (Says the short guy who dated tall girls in high school.)

301 posted on 01/15/2006 4:33:25 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: RockinRight

well....that's up to you....but it'll be worth the wait! :)


302 posted on 01/15/2006 4:34:29 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: Capriole

It's Dr. Laura's book about the things that women do to mess up their lives. I'm sure it covers a**holes well.


303 posted on 01/15/2006 4:34:32 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Just another Joe

Well, my prom date was 6'1, but other than that...

I actually had an internet date reject me because I was "a nice guy, but just too short."


304 posted on 01/15/2006 4:35:26 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: RockinRight

See #303. Dr. Laura has that covered.


305 posted on 01/15/2006 4:36:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

My last girlfriend I knew for 10 years before, and it still didn't work out. Problem was in that time, we had both changed. Plus since we met in high school and dated in our twenties, we had "grown up" into less compatible people.


306 posted on 01/15/2006 4:36:48 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: Hildy

Well I dunno, agewise anything from 21-35 is fair game to me at this point.


307 posted on 01/15/2006 4:37:57 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: phantomworker
I don't see it as a flame-fest in any way, do you?

Not much open flame, but lots of smoldering.

So you are in favor of arranged marriages?

I wouldn't say they were the One True Way (tm), but I'd say they can't be dismissed as casually as you imply in your question.

Impulse-pairing is an interesting way to put it.

In most of the western world, it's the best description. Young people make hasty decisions based on a mix of emotion and hormones, without any particular effort to make sure there's a basis for a permanent relationship.

But I think what we were talking about was the talking and agreeing before the marriage.

I don't think "we" were, but it did come up on the thread, and I agreed wholeheartedly.

I just always thought there should be love and respect in a marriage. Attraction is often the first step toward building love, imho.

Many successful arranged marriages illustrate that trust and respect can be based on other things than initial attraction. And indeed, attraction is a very bad basis for love and respect; attraction is mostly hormonal, and hormones are great for preserving the species--but that's about it.

In fact, they tend to undermine stable relationships. Note, for example, studies that have demonstrated increased infidelity during the time of ovulation. Or studies that have demonstrated a strong sexual preference for high-testosterone males, despite (per other studies) their increased likelihood of infidelity. In short, following your hormones is a great way to get pregnant, but not a great way to plan your 50th wedding anniversary.

308 posted on 01/15/2006 4:40:44 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Just another Joe

Great story! I love it!


309 posted on 01/15/2006 4:41:41 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Shalom Israel

Thank you for sharing that. I respect your point of view.


310 posted on 01/15/2006 4:43:30 PM PST by phantomworker (Winning is important but the real joy is the experience of being fully engaged in whatever I'm doing)
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To: RockinRight
So as a man of 28...I should hang out single for about 12 more years?

Guys in their 20's should check out older women. When I was 24 I was dating a lady who was 39. Soap opera actress. Very high libido

311 posted on 01/15/2006 4:44:43 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: phantomworker
Why do you think they are temporary? True love can last a life time.

I assume you aren't asking why physical attraction is temporary. As for "true love", I didn't say that true love is temporary--but "romantic" love is not true love, and it is temporary.

312 posted on 01/15/2006 4:45:38 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Great story! I love it!

(In best Jimmy Durante voice) I got a million of 'em.

313 posted on 01/15/2006 4:46:00 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Fawn
It's all temporary. People who stay married need a dependent friend.

Very wise point.

314 posted on 01/15/2006 4:46:43 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Fawn
People who stay married need a dependent friend.

My, Fawn, what cynicism.
Could it be some people stay married because, like some fine wines, it gets better with time?

Naw

315 posted on 01/15/2006 4:48:58 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Dashing Dasher; HairOfTheDog

DD...I love HOTD...but she just didn't get the joke.

True story...worked at Boeing and they were building a retirement home "up the hill." A lot of us joked about "trolling for a hubby" when we got the invites for the open house....


316 posted on 01/15/2006 4:50:09 PM PST by paulat
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To: Just another Joe

don't you know we are ALL supposed to end up bitter and divorced and dying alone in the old folks home? you are a real LOSER if you stay married.... /sarcasm


317 posted on 01/15/2006 4:50:44 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: arasina
Also, as far as physical attraction: Whereas at twenty I would've been physically attracted to a guy, say, with lots of hair on his head...that certainly isn't the case some 30 years later, especially if he has the qualities to which I'm attracted. Unnuhstan? :o)

What you say is true, but only partly. Any sort of initial attraction--physical or otherwise--is guaranteed to be superficial, which more or less makes my point without specifying "physical" attraction.

But the physical component is very important, especially for the young 'uns who are doing most of the marrying. And usually, it plays a much larger role for girls than they will admit. They often seem to project qualities of character onto a person who is physically attractive--they "just know" that the guy is warm, tender, misunderstood, et-boring-cetera, when the only thing they really know is the superficialities.

318 posted on 01/15/2006 4:51:39 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Shalom Israel
I assume you aren't asking why physical attraction is temporary. As for "true love", I didn't say that true love is temporary--but "romantic" love is not true love, and it is temporary.

I see from other posts, that we have a different culture and different world view. I respect yours. But I might be more of a 'romantic' type. I would like to think romance can be kept alive. But everything takes an effort. If romance isn't important in some relationships, that's OK, too. People are different.

319 posted on 01/15/2006 4:52:31 PM PST by phantomworker (Winning is important but the real joy is the experience of being fully engaged in whatever I'm doing)
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To: BibChr
And so I observe: Divorce on the grounds of incompatibility as reason for abandoning one's wedding vows, advocated on FR.

Dan, I'd address that on two levels.

If you have kids, you owe it to your children to figure out how to stay together and at least create a semblence of a happy home for their sake until they are adults.

But if there are no kids involved, there is no point in two adults making each other miserable for life.

320 posted on 01/15/2006 4:53:46 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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