Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz
I can see your points. And I completely agree with your last paragraph.
Another "war hero" who wants to enhance his service record for political purposes. Sign the SF 180 Murtha!
Unless Republicans wnt to be accused of attacking people's military records for political gain they should stay far away from this.
We took heavy casualties in my regiment the year that I was there.
But not the rest of the time????
Defeated in part because of Murtha's running on his puffed-up war record.
Why is it off limits to investigate a war record, but not off limits to investigate a lack of war record? Benedict Arnold served his country bravely, but that's not why we remember him. Like Kerry, Murtha is trying to use his war record to establish credibility. I agree that Republicans can be made to look bad for questioning "this brave man's" credentials. If a Republican claims military credentials, the media does the questioning.
From Murtha's website....He can't even keep the timeline of his own life straight.
Born June 17, 1932, John Patrick Murtha grew up in Westmoreland County where he delivered newspapers and worked in a gas station before graduating from Ramsay High School in Mount Pleasant. He volunteered to serve in Vietnam. After his discharge from the Marines, he ran a small business in Johnstown while starting a family and attending the University of Pittsburgh on the GI bill. He graduated from Pitt in 1962 with a degree in economics and did graduate work in economics and political science at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. He served in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1969 to 1974 and in 1974, he became the first combat Vietnam veteran elected to Congress
Wrong....
Today, Murtha is a traitor or tool of traitors --- while under suspicion for ethics problems --- and we're being asked to cut him slack because he's a "hero".
It's NOT out of line when he and his defenders demand that his critics give him "credit" for his "heroic past" while he behaves as a unethical traitor in the present -- during time of war...
I suspect the facts will show that Murtha has been a lying, posing asshole for the vast majority of his worthless, lying, cheating, stealing life...
Murtha, like Kerry, Kennedy, etc, etc, prove the saying that politicians are our only inherently criminal class.
Semper Fi
Do it on your own time. If you find anything substantive and factual, post a thread at FR, and ping me to it.
Otherwise you'll accomplish two things:
Too close to the Kerry stories to bring up, even if they are true, which certainly looks like the case.
Besides this guy is a joke anyway. I don't know of anyone who's been swayed by him. He's a non issue. Just rip him for what he's doing now.
Supposedly, a newspaper has seen Murtha's medical records.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512020002
"A May 12, 2002, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967 and May 7, 1967. In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation."
Exactly. He's damaging whatever credibility he had to begin with with his recent and current statements. Since the day he brought up this phony bill of his on the House floor for an Iraq pullout, most people I've talked with "on the street" can't believe what they're seeing and hearing from this guy.
I'm not going to help him. He's doing fine on his own.
Quite frankly, his current statements and position on the Iraq war overshadow something that may or may not have happend decades ago anyway.
How do you know the article is way out of line if you don't read it?
BTW, Murtha is the one who brought up his service as a qualification for his POV.
Thanks, El Gato, I served in the US Army (ASA), and didn't realize that the other branches might have their own variations of medals. BTW, I could never get those US Navy ranks quite, either--as a US 2LT when I entered active duty, I was so low-ranking that I saluted all US Navy officers. Weren't too many where I served. But I honor every recipient (regardless of branch of service) of the Bronze Star. What guys like Murtha do afterwards is a different story.
Murtha appears to be a poseur "hero", a corrupt politician and an ally of traitors to the Republic...
Now - I understand why he was crying on television....
He realized that the lie he had been living, and the respect he once commanded -- was OVER.
Semper Fi
Well said! There are too many of these scumbags desecrating the honor of the silent ones. Throughout history there have been those bootlickers who actively seek rewards through connections for political purposes, most were officers, most were liars. Let their peers, those who were with them, expose them for what they are are. We owe it to the dead and the walking dead and in this case, to the Corps.
Semper Fi
Marine NOT afraid to not be "PC" Ping!
Young Marine Blasts Rep. Murtha at Town Hall Meeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558047/posts
"Yes sir my name is Mark Seavey and I just want to thank you for coming up here. Until about a month ago I was Sergeant Mark Seavey infantry squad leader, I returned from Afghanistan. My question to you, (applause)
"Like yourself I dropped out of college two years ago to volunteer to go to Afghanistan, and I went and I came back. If I didn't have a herniated disk now I would volunteer to go to Iraq in a second with my troops, three of which have already volunteered to go to Iraq. I keep hearing you say how you talk to the troops and the troops are demoralized, and I really resent that characterization. (applause) The morale of the troops that I talk to is phenomenal, which is why my troops are volunteering to go back, despite the hardships they had to endure in Afghanistan."
Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557630/posts
Too bad the "Move on FReepers" don't have a clue!
In this case the evidence is smack dab on Murtha's face for all to see. I don't see anything resembling war wounds.
It appears this guy worked the same formula as Kerry....One ticket punching tour, then running for political office.
The "Move On" folks -- aren't still carrying the memories and obligations to fallen brothers that many of us are still dealing with......
The "Move On" folks -- don't have brother's names on that cold stone Wall on the Mall....
The "Move On" folks -- don't have any vested interest in exposing and destroying the lying traitorous bastards of OUR era....
Yes, I'll "Move On" just as soon at the battle is over, and the bastards are dead or dishonored and we're pissing on their graves...
The country STILL owes the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - an unpayable debt....
THEY were singularly responsible for preventing Kerry from becoming President....
Thank GOD, they were not ready to "Move On"..
Folks - there are STILL a lot of enemies out there that DESERVE our attention -- and we OWE it to the dead that can not speak for themselves or salvage their reputations which these traitorous cowards besmirched..
Semper Fi
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