Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question

cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

[FreeReign]

"I like guys who've never been there, who criticize us who've been there," Murtha said.

It's been my experience that people who have come home from service with a PH don't say what Murtha said.

[El Gato]

Correct. Engage him on his ideas.

The problem is, he's using his wounded Vietnam Veteran status to lend credibility to his "ideas". Or at least others are using his supposed record that way. If the record is false, that not only discredits him, but also his ideas. You can't separate the two that neatly.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

The posts on this thread of the folks who have never been there, much less in the military strongly suggest reinstatement of the draft. Their posts are asine....

[PatriotGirl827]

Absolutely right, IMO.

[El Gato]

I don't believe that was the case with Bob Dole or the President's father.

Or on the other side of the isle, Senator Inouye of Hawaii, who was awarded the Medal of Honor and who lost his right arm in the process. That was as a battlefield commissioned 2nd Lt. of the 442nd Regimental Combat team in Italy.

[RushCrush]

SPEAKING OF RELEASING HIS MILITARY RECORDS- DID J EFFIN KERRY RELEASE HIS LIKE HE PROMISED TO ON RUSSERT'S SHOW??

Nope

If anyone knows the date of that episode of Meet the Press, I'd like to know...I believe it was Spring 2005? Then later Kerry said he had signed it but had not faxed it to the military?

[GretchenM]

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[Wristpin]

Actually he quietly released it to a couple of friendly reporters at the Boston Globe and had a "military expert" go through it for them....I imagine Murtha would do the similar thing if pushed.

[Bob]

He says he has a Bronze Star with the "Combat V". Is this something new? I thought the V stood for something else.

The "V" device on a Bronze Star stands for "valor". It is used to distinguish between Bronze Stars awarded for actions in combat, which get the "V", versus those awarded for non-combat actions, which don't.

[WalterSkinner]

..calling Jean Schmidt!

[Ramcat]

Murtha's my congressman.

You could say that politics gets a little rough around here?

[OldEagle]

"The "V" device on a Bronze Star stands for "valor". "

I have never heard it called a "Combat V". You can get one in combat without the "V".

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Yes, but GWB never drove an airplane in a combat zone...not that he didn't volunteer...they just didn't need duece drivers with limited experience. He is deserving of all the accolades of a patriot...the first time I got shot at in anger..I wished big time I had taken GW's route....and gone to the Guard. That being said him flying the "Deuce" and me flying hash and trash...he was probably at greater risk!!

[RVN Airplane Driver]

BTW...Murtha is a phony lying POS...excuse my memory lapses

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"If anyone knows the date of that episode of Meet the Press, I'd like to know...I believe it was Spring 2005?"

348 days ago,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6886726
Hanoi Kerry promised, on national TV,
to sign form SF-180 AND release his full military records
to the public.
He has yet to do so.
President Bush signed his Form 180 in 2004.

Kerry Hangs Back From Disclosure to All
The NY Sun June 9, 2005 Josh Gerstein
http://www.nysun.com/article/15135

Did Kerry really release Navy records?
Chicagao Sun Times June 9, 2005 THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lip09.html

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!

http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com

[rcrngroup]

Actually he quietly released it to a couple of friendly reporters at the Boston Globe and had a "military expert" go through it for them....I imagine Murtha would do the similar thing if pushed.

Actually no, he did NOT release it as he said he would. He was very selective in what his Form 180 released and did not release, and apparently it did not release his medical records. John O'Neill challenged Kerry this year on that and said if John Kerry is unclear as to how to go about signing the Form 180 and releasing the records in their entirety and not just to a few liberal, left-wing media hacks at the Boston Globe, then John O'Neill stated he would gladly accompany Kerry and help him to sign Form 180 correctly.

And no, I doubt that Murtha would want his bogus military records fully opened & expunged any more than what Kerry wants his bogus military records fully opened.

[Dick Vomer]

him and Kerry should get together and swap war stories

I think this was done in a movie also, but my uncle at a cookout was talking with my dad and other uncles about their time in the Marine Corp and Army.....

well all the little cousins were sitting down and listening...so my uncle goes into this hair raising story"we were surrounded, me and 3 other guys..and about 100-150 VC came from the front... and about another 100 flanked us, when we checked the other side of the perimeter all we could see was black pajamas and muzzle flashes...

So we sat there and waited and waited, till finally somebody asked,"what happened???!!!!"

Well he swells up, stands up tall, pointed a longneck in our general direction and said...."we all got killed!!! Gee, nobody could live through that, so don't listen to any 'war stories'..hahahahahaha"

My dad and the rest were just busting a gut... they rarely told "war" stories, just funny things that somebody in their unit did, or how they got nicknames or how odd certain physical attributes of their fellow Marines and soldiers had.

Murtha, Kerry and the others that may or may not have "punched a ticket" to get the right ribbon for their resume need a reality check through Walter Reed.

My pop earned 1 Purple Heart. Lost half a leg, had multiple gunshot wounds, phosporous burns, and parts of a grenade in his "good" leg and his back. 2 1/2 years at Corpus Christi Naval Air Station after hitting Brooks Burn unit showed me how real soldiers earned their Purple Hearts.... from what I saw none of them were "given".

If this f'ing Democrat turns out to be a "poser" and REMF/Poster Boy Marine that pulled a "Kerry" in order to pad the Purple Heart count and "V" for valor ticket, he needs to be exposed.

I don't think anybody that's earned a combat ribbon is shy about showing how he earned his award, especially if somebody is challenging them on it.

Should be easy enough to find out with the Pajamahadim... somebody served with this a-hole. Somebody had to have seen the wounds that earned him the Purple Hearts.... I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't a Navy guy like..say.... John Kerry..bwahahahahaha... they probably met in Cambodia over Christmas vacation.

[Cicero]

I'm late to the party, but (like Kerry) Murtha is the guy who keeps raising the issue of his military service. Otherwise, it wouldn't be relevant.

I think he and kerry should both provide the public with full disclosure by authorizing the release of their service records.

The MSM made Bush do it, and kept right on bitching after he did. Why are Democrats exempt?

[HighWheeler]

Is this a wise place to go?

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The truth is always a wise place to go. And since the credibility of this 'rat, who is citing his mysterious awards as his crowning substantiation, is questioning the decisions, authority, and character of President Bush.