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Courage Under Fire Pat Robertson isn’t playing some pernicious political game
www.jnewswire.com ^ | January 11th, 2006 | Stan Goodenough

Posted on 01/11/2006 10:59:55 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Courage under fire Pat Robertson isn’t playing some pernicious political game

By Stan Goodenough

January 11th, 2006

“Instructive” is a good word for describing the reaction to Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) President Pat Robertson’s remarks about the stroke that incapacitated Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon last week.

Certainly it took immense courage of conviction for an influential man like the former candidate for the American presidency to say something he knew would enrage many people and put ammunition into the hands of his avowed enemies, and to nonetheless say it because he believes it is true, and because his conscience directs him to do so.

He had something of a trial run a few months ago when he came out in support of the idea that the USA assassinate Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez.

But when Robertson expressed his views about Sharon just that this past week, hell itself seemed to unleash its fury against him.

Speaking on his flagship program, “The 700 Club,” Robertson said that God had removed Sharon from power because of the prime minister’s expressed determination to redraw Israel’s borders and give away great chunks of the nation’s historic homeland.

Sharon had been dividing God’s land, Robertson said. “And I would say woe unto any Prime Minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations, or the United States of America. God says ‘this land belongs to me. You’d better leave it alone.’”

Interestingly, godless people often judge the motives of God-fearing men and women in a negative light; presuming that they revel in the suffering or discomfort of those who do not believe.

Thus, while nothing in Robertson’s demeanor, expression or tone of voice suggested that he felt anything but compassion and concern for Sharon, his words triggered a tsunami of outrage that has yet to subside.

A columnist in The Jerusalem Post (January 11, 2006) declared that Robertson had been “gloating over Sharon’s collapse.”

The same edition of the Post labeled Robertson a “PM Basher” and reported that the Israeli Tourism Ministry had, in reaction to the comments, cancelled a multi-million dollar joint tourism project for which CBN was to be one of the chief fundraisers.

CBS News described Robertson’s remarks as “stinging.”

The self-styled People for the American Way – a group that denies the Christian origins of the United States and champions that country’s surrender to secularism – lashed out at Robertson’s “insensitivity and arrogance.”

Ynetnews’ “Christian” Arab commentator Ray Hanania called Robertson an “American racist,” a “demagogue” who was “worse than Islamic extremists.”

Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention told the Los Angeles Times he was “appalled that Pat Robertson would make such statements. …The arrogance of the statement shocks me almost as much as the insensitivity of it.”

The executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Reverend Barry Lynn, accused Robertson of “making callous political points while a man is struggling for his life.”

The Anti Defamation League’s Abraham Foxman said Robertson’s remarks were “un-Christian and a perversion of religion.”

Even the White House was embarrassed, calling Robertson’s statements: “wholly inappropriate and offensive” and saying they “really don't have a place in this or any other debate.”

We strongly differ with the Bush administration on that one. How the Almighty feels about the international effort to steal Israel’s land has a very definite place in the debate. It’s a major topic in His Word.

A friend of mine says that, to know what is important to God, just look at where the devil is directing his attacks; to know what Satan fears and loathes, identify the focal point of his hatred and rage.

All this anger is being aimed at Robertson for one primary reason: He told the truth (and yes, he told it in love), and the truth hurt.

Robertson’s words were not an attack on Sharon. He was not kicking an already injured man. He was not wishing for the prime minister’s death or saying the stroke “served him right.”

The Christian broadcaster was alerting any future Israeli leader, and any American leader too, to the divinely-ordained consequences of dividing up the land of Israel.

And he was expressing the conviction held by many Christians, as well as by many Jews in Israel.

But what about the timing of Robertson’s remarks?

Among those who agree that God did intervene to stop Sharon from implementing his policies, some have opined that Robertson should not have spoken out so soon after the stroke. For a variety of reasons they would have preferred it if he had perhaps waited for a little while before saying anything.

One wonders how successful Moses would have been in winning freedom for his people if he had waited for injured bodies and raw emotions to heal before appealing yet again to Pharaoh to let his people go.

Had Moses waited respectfully for the mourning and burial of Egypt’s first born to be over before demanding the Israelites’ release, they would never have been set free. As it was, within hours of burying his own son, Pharaoh was in hot, vengeful pursuit of the just-emancipated slaves.

Sometimes it is important and most effective to strike while the iron is still hot.

Putting a hand to the division of the Land of Israel is not some irrelevant political action that could be forgotten or re-addressed in a few weeks or months.

It is a potentially deadly business that demands a quick and forthright response.

Why deadly? Because those committed to creating “two states for two people” out of the Jewish people’s patrimony are actively (and in some cases it can be strongly argued, purposefully) pushing the nation of Israel down the road to destruction.

Whether being driven by US President George W. Bush or Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, ancient and recent history solidly attest to the fact that this vision endangers the very existence of Israel’s Jews, who themselves comprise the remnant of those who, within living memory, were mass-murdered on the European continent.

God will not sit still while this continues. He is furious with the nations, and has resolved to deal with those who so threaten His own.

Every good citizen of God’s Kingdom should proclaim this truth from the rooftops, echoing Robertson when he said:

“Woe to any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations, or the United States of America.”

Thanks to the wide reach of CBN, and the incensed response to what Robertson said, this warning has now been proclaimed around the globe.

Whoever wants to hear it will hear it. None who reject it will be able to say: “We were not warned; we did not know.”

May God honor Pat Robertson, who has kept his vow never to turn his back on Israel or to abandon her.

Identifying the diplomatic process that means to establish an enemy Arab state on Israel’s land, he spoke out of love for the Jewish people and out of concern for their wellbeing.

To have done anything less would have been a betrayal of his beliefs. Any true friend of Israel’s should see this, applaud it, and emulate it.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 700clubskookymullah; 700koolaiddrinker; christianstupidity; divide; israel; moneygrubber; patrobertson; patsfullofhotgas; patthemoonbat; robertson; sharon
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To: Froufrou

Don't aplogize.

He WAS INDEED out of line. VERY out of line. No religious leader should speak those kinds of words and still call himself a religious leader. I dont' care WHO he is!!!


41 posted on 01/11/2006 12:54:46 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: Siena Dreaming
However, he is not understanding Old Testament prophecy correctly.

Really? Who decides what words should, and should not be taken literally? I'll take literal over Replacement Theology and metaphor any day. Someone who calls it 'Old Testament' prophecy already has indicated what they think of the Word of G-d. At least when Robertson spoke, he used G-d's very words.
42 posted on 01/11/2006 12:55:04 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft

Then tell us. What did he say exactly?


43 posted on 01/11/2006 12:55:42 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: SJackson
The connection is the Palestinian state.

Bush and Rice are advocates of that. Robertson's fallacious interpretation of scripture won't allow him to accept the policy.

44 posted on 01/11/2006 12:57:18 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Restorer

What I said is what men of faith believe.

God rewards good and punishes evil. You want to argue with that, argue thousands of years of Religion.

They would also say that God determines good and evil and when each act may lead to another of God's desires.

I don't debate religious beliefs. I'm simply saying that based on what Robertson and so many other religious people believe, that God is always interceding in the human experience, Robertson said nothing (especially by the direct quote, not as it has been interpreted) particularly wrong.

He is being vilified for his political views. Being against the (today) politically correct Sharon policies.


45 posted on 01/11/2006 12:58:01 PM PST by Sabramerican (Directions to Train Boxcars: Smola, Smola, Kadima.)
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To: safisoft
Poetic language in the Bible should not be taken literally.

The prophets often use it. When Christ came he established the new "Israel". God's chosen are now those redeemed by Christ.

The Old Testament land of Israel served its purpose in bringing forth the Savior.

46 posted on 01/11/2006 1:00:43 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Esther Ruth

"The Word of God is as clear as can be but some still for some reason think a game of Russian Roulette with God might be the thing to do."

I'm so sick of this attitude, "I understand the Bible and you do not so therefore i'm going to shove my ideas down your throat". Obviously you are an expert on Biblical writings. and i'm sure you've researched and read many of the books in their original languages, not wanting, of course, to trust in the translator's work.


47 posted on 01/11/2006 1:01:54 PM PST by jay-pee
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To: cubreporter
Then tell us. What did he say exactly?

I have said last year that Israel was entering into the most dangerous period of its entire existence as a nation. That is intensifying this year with the loss of Sharon. Sharon was personally a very likeable person. I am sad to see him in this condition. But I think we need to look at the Bible and the Book of Joel. The prophet Joel makes it very clear that G-d has enmity against those who, quote, "divide my land." G-d considers this land to be his. You read the Bible, he says, "This is my land." And for any prime minister of Israel who decides he going carve it up and give it away, G-d says, "No. This is mine." And the same thing -- I had a wonderful meeting with Yitzhak Rabin in 1974. He was tragically assassinated, and it was terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, he was dead. And now Ariel Sharon, who was again a very likeable person, a delightful person to be with. I prayed with him personally. But here he is at the point of death. He was dividing G-d's land, and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations or United States of America. G-d said, "This land belongs to me, you better leave it alone."
48 posted on 01/11/2006 1:03:52 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

>The prophets often use it. When Christ came he established the new "Israel". God's chosen are now those redeemed by Christ.<

That is old heresy not currently accepted by any orthodox Christian denomination.


49 posted on 01/11/2006 1:03:58 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Siena Dreaming
Poetic language in the Bible should not be taken literally.

Supercessionist drivel. The quotes in Joel not only are not 'poetic', the so-called 'New Testament' treats them as literal as well.

Robertson never claimed to speak for G-d - He merely repeated what was written. Supercessionists claim that G-d's words are not meant to be taken literally, so it is they who are speaking for G-d - and for that, I would refer you to the poetic language of Jeremiah 23, and the woes therein.
50 posted on 01/11/2006 1:07:39 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Restorer
Kim Il Sung is doing fine.

Kim Il Sung has been dead for many years. His son Kim Jong Il is now in power in North Korea.

51 posted on 01/11/2006 1:07:57 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Blessed
That is old heresy not currently accepted by any orthodox Christian denomination

Excuse me? God's chosen are not those redeemed by Christ? Please explain.

52 posted on 01/11/2006 1:07:58 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: safisoft

Really? God's own words, you say?

My Bible is missing the verse that reads "And I would say, Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations or the United States of America."

Those sound like Pat's words, not God's.


53 posted on 01/11/2006 1:08:58 PM PST by dmz
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To: safisoft
Oft' repeated, but still a myth. Robertson never said anything about Sharon's stroke being punishment for anything. All the knee-jerks failed to actually listen or read what he said.

Get your head out of the sand. I and millions of others watched and listened to Pat say just that.

I repeat...Was Pat Robertson's prostate cancer punishment from God?
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54 posted on 01/11/2006 1:09:20 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: safisoft

Thanks for the transcript. I suspect that if Pat had said such things about Dubya, he'd be hearing from the Secret Service. Me, I wonder if God couldn't care less about Israel, but maybe has a soft spot for Anabaptists or such.


55 posted on 01/11/2006 1:10:20 PM PST by MajorityOfOne
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To: safisoft
I did not say all the prophets' writings should not be taken literally. I said much of it is poetic and it not meant to be taken literally.

Don't twist words.

56 posted on 01/11/2006 1:10:43 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
Poetic language in the Bible should not be taken literally.

I imagine all except for that biblical poetic language that makes you believe that Jesus the Jew was your foretold Messiah.

57 posted on 01/11/2006 1:10:45 PM PST by Sabramerican (Directions to Train Boxcars: Smola, Smola, Kadima.)
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To: safisoft
I'll take literal over Replacement Theology and metaphor any day

ROFL!
Does Pat, or you, take the 11th commandment literally?
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58 posted on 01/11/2006 1:11:58 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: cubreporter

And dare I point out it's not like it's the first time he's been outa line?


59 posted on 01/11/2006 1:13:28 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Sabramerican
Much poetry is meant for imagery (a good example is David's writing) for effect.

The prophets often use it. Not always as some on here are twisting my words to say...but often.

No, not all passages except those speaking of the Messiah were non-literal.

60 posted on 01/11/2006 1:14:36 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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