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Police Fatally Shoot Mass. Teen Driver
AP ^ | 1/10/6

Posted on 01/10/2006 11:16:47 AM PST by SmithL

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To: freekitty

"Where the hell was she when her son was robbing people?"

Prolly, sitting on her butt at home, waiting for her cut.


61 posted on 01/10/2006 12:58:59 PM PST by silver charm (Do not be deceived, God can not be mocked. A man shall reap what he sows. Gal. 6:7)
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To: precedence
Who said they had to be dead to be nominated? You are changing the rules and who gave you the right to do that. I nominated both the perp and his mother because neither of them seems to have had any smarts at all, and one gave birth to the other, therefore they both qualify for the award. (see rulebook sec.C, para.143, pgs. 764-867: "a parent of a nominee for the annual Darwin award is eligible for nomination if it can be shown that through the parent's neglect and/or stupidity, the original nominee (i.e.:their child) earned the right to be nominated." It is my opinion this lady qualifies too. :0 )
62 posted on 01/10/2006 1:01:29 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Mama didn't let her son grow up to be a cowboy.

Yeah, he could be eating pudding and getting a reach around...

All things considered, I'd rather be dead.. ;o)

63 posted on 01/10/2006 1:03:43 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: SmithL
"I want to know who killed my son for no reason at all."

...after he drove a car at them while fleeing the scene of a possible burglary attempt...

Another dead stupid criminal.

Not just another stupid criminal, but an entire stupid family, evidently.
We seriously need asylums for the criminally retarded.

64 posted on 01/10/2006 1:34:40 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: massgopguy

Who knows maybe it was suicide by cop. I can't imagine the young man not knowing the police would respond with deadly force if he drove a car at them.


65 posted on 01/10/2006 1:42:44 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: DCPatriot

That's when you pick up something and knock the hell out of them.

Of course, by using discipline consistently and wisely throughout the child's life, the likelihood of this occurring is minimized.

Sooner or later though, the boy will try out the Old Man. It may not be physical, but it is likely to be. That is why fathers are needed in a family, because an average 16 year old can beat the daylights out of his mother, and both son and mother know it.


66 posted on 01/10/2006 2:03:32 PM PST by 308MBR (After over 20 years of GOP only, I'm voting a split ticket in 'O6 and hoping for gridlock.)
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To: Semper Paratus

If only this kid's family had held a $10,000 fund raiser for Riley, he would not have had to try and take out the cops.

There is no justice for the poor.


67 posted on 01/10/2006 2:11:56 PM PST by msg-84
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To: DCPatriot

What makes you think this mother falls into that category?
She's just blaming the police, not an 'out of control' son.

Making parents responsible for their kids is not nonsense, it's the law...and the 'bad seed' argument doesn't stand up in court. A person who loses control of their car isn't given a pass. Why should a parent who loses control over their kid be assumed blameless?

Parents I've known with out of control kids sent them to military or 'reform' schools. No fairytale endings, but so far none of them have ended up like this.


68 posted on 01/10/2006 2:35:36 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: PreciousLiberty

Good point. I stand corrected.


69 posted on 01/10/2006 7:12:54 PM PST by precedence (Liberalism::Not a Family Value)
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To: geezerwheezer

As I understand it, a person must remove themselves from the gene pool before being nominated for the award - unable to pass along their stupidity to another generation.


70 posted on 01/10/2006 7:15:03 PM PST by precedence (Liberalism::Not a Family Value)
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To: vrwc0915
You should check out Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1, decided on March 27, 1985. In particular, Justice O'Connor's dissenting opinion. The case involved a 15-year-old burglar, Garner, shot in Tennessee by the police responding to a call. Garner was discovered hiding by a fence, was called out to halt, began to climb over, and was shot in the back of the head by a responding officer. Justice O'Connor, along with the Chief Justice and Justice Rehnquist sided, more or less, with the police. The majority opinion, they said, "effectively creates a Fourth Amendment right allowing a burglary suspect to flee unimpeded from a police officer who has probably cause to arrest, who has ordered the suspect to halt, and who has no means of firing his weapon to prevent escape. I do not believe that the Fourth Amendment supports such a right..."

Obviously, there could have been cases decided since then that have made other differences...

71 posted on 01/10/2006 7:21:03 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to protect oneself from harm.)
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To: Simo Hayha; vrwc0915
Oops. Make that "and who has no means short of firing his weapon to prevent escape..."
72 posted on 01/10/2006 7:33:16 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to protect oneself from harm.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Your right about the citizen part too. I agree 100% with you. I wrote it in the context that i did because the story was about a police officer in the situation.


73 posted on 01/10/2006 8:04:26 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: SmithL

'I want to know who killed my son for no reason at all. . ."

And this is what happens when the police officers are not as expert marksmen as the Plymouth officers: You get run over, dragged and then sued by the SOB!

Friday, December 30, 2005 11:47 AM

Man who tried to run over police sues for $20 million

(Syracuse, NY - AP) — A 20-year-old man who struck two police officers with his jeep last year has filed a claim for 20 million dollars, saying he should not have been shot.

Elliott Green, serving seven years in state prison, was shot in the chest and groin on October 7th, 2004.

Acting as his own lawyer, Green says in federal court papers that he was under the influence of drugs, alcohol and embalming fluid, which made him "nervous and jumpy" and probably contributed to his trying to drive off.

According to the Syracuse Post-Standard, he is seeking compensation from the police department for "pain and suffering, mental anguish, unnecessary force and anything else that deems necessary."

Syracuse police officials declined to comment.

Officer Michael Goudy was dragged and pinned by the white Jeep Cherokee, and Officer Daniel Babbage was hit and thrown in the air.

Babbage fired seven shots, hitting Green three times. A grand jury found Babbage acted "appropriately and justifiably."

Green pleaded guilty in January to two felony counts of attempted aggravated assault upon a police officer.


74 posted on 01/11/2006 7:22:24 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Westlander

Prime material for Ed Kennedy to investigate. He's good with "cars"

Statistic prove that you are 10 times more likely to die while a passenger in a vehicle driven by any member of the Kennedy family than by sticking your head in a wood chipper.

Joan Kennedy has been arrested for drunk-driving four times since the mid-1970s and has repeatedly undergone rehabilitation treatment for alcohol addiction.


75 posted on 01/11/2006 7:31:41 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: precedence; geezerwheezer
As I understand it, a person must remove themselves from the gene pool before being nominated for the award - unable to pass along their stupidity to another generation.

That is correct. Merely being stupid isn't enough. The stupid person must either die or lose the ability to reproduce to be eligible for a Darwin award.

76 posted on 01/11/2006 7:33:21 AM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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To: Drammach

"Mama didn't let her son grow up to be a cowboy."

What. Are you telling me that his momma was a homofobe too?

Yuk, yuk...


77 posted on 01/11/2006 7:34:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: SmithL

But...but...but...what about the rule book? Was it changed, and by whom? (As I wrote the rule book, you are both disqualified due to knowing way too much about this stuff!) :)


78 posted on 01/11/2006 8:10:24 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: vrwc0915

Sounds like this kid was an immediate threat


79 posted on 01/12/2006 10:19:55 PM PST by car par
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To: car par

roger that


80 posted on 01/12/2006 10:22:10 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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