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To: quidnunc
"I'm a pardoned gentile, but I'm not one of the Chosen People. They're the apple of his eye."

What a crock. What is this person "guilty" of and who "pardoned" him. Moreover, it's a heck of a lot easier for a non-Jew to gain a heavenly reward than for a Jew. And where does he get off saying that Jews are the "apple of G-D's eye"? How does he know?

In recent weeks, leaders of three of the nation's largest Jewish groups — the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee and the Union for Reform Judaism

What makes these groups Jewish? Just because they are involved with "Jewish" causes? These are liberal groups peddling the liberal agenda with a "kosher" label.

The liberal wing of American Jewry in America had better wise up and recognize who their real friends are.

There is no "liberal wing" of American Jewry. "Liberal Jew" is a bigger oxymoron than "French honor". These people are liberals who happened to be born to people who were Jewish according to Jewish religious law. Any relationship to authentic Judaism is purely coincidental.

17 posted on 01/07/2006 9:04:39 PM PST by h.a. cherev
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To: h.a. cherev
What a crock. What is this person "guilty" of and who "pardoned" him.

He is guilty of sin. You know, screwing up and living not as God commands in the Bible.

Who pardoned him is Jesus, not because he was the Messiah, but because He was sacrificed on the Passover as a sinless Lamb. God set the Passover up so that we would recognize the Messiah when He came. Only God can reconcile us to Him, we cannot buy our way into perfection once stained by our deeds here on earth. It is like trying to buy back innocence.

Moreover, it's a heck of a lot easier for a non-Jew to gain a heavenly reward than for a Jew.

Sort of true at this point in time. But before Jesus, it was the opposite. It is true there are blinders on Jews these days for the sake of the Gentiles, yet many Jews do find a path to God through Jesus. Many Jews did in Jesus time too. The issue is religion over relationship. While religion points the way, that is all it does. I have come to believe that the blinders are formed partly of religion. If you seek Judaism because of cultural identity, or because of religion alone, with the current radical prejudice against Jesus, you will end up in a dead end street. But if you seek Judaism to get to know God it will actually point you right at the Messiah.

You are far better off as a Jew with faith in God in Judaism than any Gentile or Jew without. As a Christian I have no offense with Judaism, I do however have some with Rabbinical Judaism. Those who worship the wisdom of man will find a maze of inconsistent thought and frankly ridiculous conclusions. Roads to the Messiah are intentionally blocked, and roads to the worship of men are paved. But those who truly seek God Himself will not be disappointed, they will find him.

And where does he get off saying that Jews are the "apple of G-D's eye"? How does he know?

Simple, the Bible says so.

Deu 32:
9 For the LORD's portion is His people; Jacob is the place of His inheritance.
10 "He found him in a desert land And in the wasteland, a howling wilderness; He encircled him, He instructed him, He kept him as the apple of His eye.

ZEC 2:
8 For thus says the Lord of hosts: "He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you touches the apple of His eye. 9 For surely I will shake My hand against them, and they shall become spoil for their servants.

Frankly after living with the Jews for 6 years, I believe that Christianity has a lot more to learn from the Jews than the Jews have to learn from Christianity. We have the head, but they have the body.

99 posted on 01/08/2006 12:47:04 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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