Posted on 01/06/2006 8:07:53 AM PST by MRMEAN
LOL I am surprised you have not got zotted yet...
You can get "zotted" for telling the truth? What an odd place this is.
You are not fooling me. ROTFLMAO
You're parsing your words. Services rendered in the expectation of payment are not rendered pro bono.
-most importantly they are leftist morally devoid communists -Satan works "pro bono" as well...
The truth is your best defense.
The school board members are perjurers. Dishonest charlatans.
They thought they could get around the Constitution. They knew what they were doing was wrong, which is why they repeatedly lied about it (including under oath), and why they had to try and hide the money trail.
They deserved to lose. There's no mystery as to why the Discovery Institute tried to distance itself from these losers since the very beginning - the decision was inevitable from the start.
"He said several school board members "were hell-bent on getting what they wanted." [emphasis added]
Deliciously ironic phrasing, considering that he was characterizing the pro-ID dingbats on the Dover School Board. Let's see what the Conservative Republican judge, who was appointed to the Federeal bench by Bush, had to say about the actions of the jerks on the school board:
.... this case came to us [the court] as the result of the activism of an ill-informed faction on a school board, aided by a national public interest law firm eager to find a constitutional test case on ID, who in combination drove the Board to adopt an imprudent and ultimately unconstitutional policy. The breathtaking inanity of the Board's decision is evident when considered against the factual backdrop which has now been fully revealed through this trial. The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources.
Thanks, I certainly will! The same to you...
This is misleading. It makes it sound as if the school board decided to hire the Thomas More Law Center after the board's actions were challenged in court.
Instead, it's the other way around -- the Thomas More Law Center initiated this whole fight, and "retained" the Dover school board to be its test case. The Thomas More Law Center had actually spent a few years shopping around the country for a school board willing to be a test case for "Intelligent Design" in the classroom, including ones West Virginia, Michigan, Minnesota, and several other states, which all declined the "offer". The (former) Dover school board was the first one stupid enough to volunteer.
The Thomas More Law Center very much *should* be held accountable for the county's legal fees... This debacle was their idea from the start.
Also, the article might give the wrong impression when it says, "...Russell said, 'It may be very difficult to win the case" because it would be perceived that the intelligent design policy "was initiated for religious reasons.'" The problem at trial wasn't that the policy could be *perceived* as being religiously motivated, it's that an overwhelming amount of testimony established beyond doubt that it *was*, for a fact, religiously motivated.
Finally, the article's description of the "ID policy" is too sketchy, and gives the impression that the policy was booted as unconstitutional merely for stating that, "evolution is 'not a fact' and that intelligent design is an alternative explanation to the origin of life". The actual policy involved much more than that, and the details are critical when it comes to the reasons why the policy was (correctly) found unconstitutional.
I know that; tell it to the OP. He seems to be on their side.
A couple of my favorite examples (out of *many*) of clear perjury by these so-called "good Christians" are:
1. Former Dover Area School Board member Bill Buckingham stated under oath during the trial that said he never read about his activities on the school board in the newspapers and never talked to anyone about them. He also said he never mentioned creationism at school board meetings or in the press or anywhere.
The plaintiffs then played a Fox 43 TV interview from June 2004 in which Buckingham said, "My opinion, it's OK to teach Darwin, but you have to balance it with something else, such as creationism."
2. Buckingham also said that he didn't know where the 60 copies of the "ID" book, "Of Pandas and People" had come from. That's pretty funny, since Buckingham himself had asked for donations at his church for the book, raised $850 for the purpose, then wrote a check dated Oct. 4, 2004, to Donald Bonsell, the father of board member Alan Bonsell, for that amount with a note saying the money was for "Pandas" books.
I throw my opinion out there, and peopole respond to it. You know darn well where I stand, I don't have to defend it. This is an opinion and news forum I believe. Now, if you care to throw anything but insults my way feel free.
Not much of a conversation if you're dismissive to people who post in good faith.
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Do not include me in your moral relative drama...
You too.
P.S. since you saw fit to post your junk to me I will comment that your anti-Christian crusade cloaked in science grows tiring and as always is transparently obvious.
Again -feel free to share it with the trolls and morally devoid. -- If I have to read your anti-Christian rhetoric let it be by accident alone if you continue without being banned -do not include me in your postings while they continue this way...
You would not be zotted for telling the truth here.
All discussions involving creationism/ID/evolution at FR have merely devolved into mere name-calling fests.
I try not to participate as I see the same people (on both sides, to some degree) make similar, tired, over-broad statments.
"Do not include me in your moral relative drama..."
See Post #31.
I'd think the perjuring ID supporting school board member was the "moral relativist," given that he thinks lying in court is acceptable in supporting a divine purpose.
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