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The Messiah Dajjal Has Secretly Started Work
HarunYahya.com ^ | Jan., 2006 | Harun Yahya

Posted on 01/04/2006 10:59:01 PM PST by Dajjal

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To: papertyger

But that is ABSOLUTELY what they believe. It is the standard Islamic line to say that the New Testament authors were unreliable, and that the text of the Scriptures has been corrupted down through the ages by insertions and deletions supporting the "post-Constantine" teaching that God is a Trinity.


81 posted on 01/06/2006 7:28:06 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

Oh, I understand that's their doctrine, but it wasn't clear if it was your doctrine.

Makes a big difference in approach, wouldn't you think?


82 posted on 01/06/2006 7:35:09 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: papertyger
I agree, and thanks for helping me clarify that. If I'd have thought of it in time, I would have included the bit about the Scripture in part "B" of my Western Civ essay in Post# 69, as what they are saying about us.

I've added that essay onto my FR homepage, and have just edited in the revision over there.

83 posted on 01/06/2006 7:45:34 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal; airborne
...the evangelists and especially Paul misunderstood and thought Jesus was divine.

Not to mention St. Peter.
Deceived - all of them, eh?

84 posted on 01/06/2006 7:46:55 PM PST by XR7
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I think I corrected all of the typos, too.


85 posted on 01/06/2006 7:47:20 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Matthew 24

35:Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36:But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

That being said, I feel the framework could be up, paving the way for the rapture soon. Who knows, I could be wrong but I pray for the Holy Spirit to fill me and for God to fill me with his will.

If we keep our eye on the Lord always, that's all that matters.

God Bless.

86 posted on 01/06/2006 8:05:54 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Dajjal
If he says it because he believes it, he is both deceived and deceiving.

How do they justify this inherent contradiction which is so obviously (and fatuously) intended to inflame the listener?

87 posted on 01/06/2006 8:05:59 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: XR7
Not to mention St. Peter.
Deceived - all of them, eh?

Well, they could say that the Apostles and Evangelists got it right and were accurate, but then Paul started the "Jesus was God Incarnate" cult, and the Gospel texts were corrupted to reflect that. It depends which Imam you talk to. Some might find a way to say the early Church was pure and Islamic, and that all the corruption started with Constantine and Niceae.

88 posted on 01/06/2006 8:13:38 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: papertyger
How do they justify this inherent contradiction which is so obviously (and fatuously) intended to inflame the listener?

They probably think they're being generous: "It's not all your fault that you're the Dajjal -- you were lied to as a child...."

89 posted on 01/06/2006 8:19:20 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Dang me, you know, my mind just won't let go of the notion that a Muslim, gently spreading careful propaganda and disinformation to the infidel, would lost quite a bit of credibility if he were known to be Muslim.

90 posted on 01/06/2006 8:34:55 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Hey, feel free to go to my FR homepage, click on "In Forum" and read through the last four years of my posts.

Start with early December, though -- 90% of my postings since then have been WOT/Islam-related.

Happy hunting.

91 posted on 01/06/2006 8:46:50 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
They probably think they're being generous: "It's not all your fault that you're the Dajjal -- you were lied to as a child...."

Be that as it may, it is nonetheless a logical contradiction to assert both malice and mistake on the same point.

This lends credibility to the contention that mohammedenism is a mongrel religion cobbled together by illiterates from poorly understood pieces of Judaism and Christianity.

There is a New Testament reference for "deceiving and being deceived," but it is an open ended statement without specificity.

92 posted on 01/06/2006 8:49:41 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: Dajjal

Dajjal, old buddy, take me off your ping list.
Thanks.

I already get enough emails in Arabic and English
unsolicited -- don't need to come on
FR and get pinged to this, too.


93 posted on 01/06/2006 8:51:58 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Dajjal; longshadow

It should be noted that a spokesman for Harun Yahya (and BAV, of course) was hired by the Kansas Conservatives to speak at textbook hearings. These two groups have been allies for some time.


94 posted on 01/06/2006 8:53:48 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Cindy

okie-doke


95 posted on 01/06/2006 8:53:54 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

Thank you.


96 posted on 01/06/2006 8:56:00 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Doctor Stochastic
There was something at National Review Online a few weeks back by a follower of Harun Yahya. Found it while poking through my "In Forum" posts.

Intelligent Design could be a bridge between civilizations.
NRO (nationalreviewonline) ^ | December 01, 2005 | Mustafa Akyol

97 posted on 01/06/2006 8:58:11 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11


98 posted on 01/06/2006 9:01:44 PM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: airborne
All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11

How nice for you!

99 posted on 01/06/2006 9:08:06 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: papertyger
Ain't it though!


100 posted on 01/06/2006 9:10:50 PM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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