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To: floriduh voter; All
An amazing debate, that "right to die" "debate"! Somehow it appears more appropriate applied to the perps on death row.

Here is some updating on Haleigh Poutre. They give her some time to figure out if she wants to exercise her "right to die" or maybe for them to decide that is what she should have.

A few medical experts have suggested that Haleigh maybe in a "minimally conscious state" wherein she is aware of her surroundings and able to respond to orders. But in which case she would also be aware of her own pain. However, being a child she still has a greater chance to make a significant recovery from the life-threatening brain injury. But it would be a year before doctors can conclude whether Haleigh has any hope of being even partially able. But as Dr. Douglas Katz of Braintree Rehabilitation Hospital suggests one should not “give up before a year".

Battered but not beaten - Victim fights back to breathe and move again

Maybe she will fool those who default to death as a remedy.

Girl with damage to brain spends first day in rehab

Haleigh responsive, DSS official says

8mm

675 posted on 01/28/2006 5:47:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu, ufam Tobie!..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

they shouldn't give up at all! If the child can feel pain why would you want to dehydrate her to death???? OH MY WORD, she is brain damaged, not dead for pete sakes. I can't believe they want to end a life of a child!


677 posted on 01/28/2006 6:56:47 AM PST by Halls (Dallas County, Texas, but my heart is in East Texas!)
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To: 8mmMauser

Good news all around for little Haleigh! I think she can pull through : )


679 posted on 01/28/2006 7:23:30 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: 8mmMauser

thanks for those links. Doesn't read well with all those 'buts'. Have a good weekend!


683 posted on 01/28/2006 7:56:05 AM PST by cyn
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To: 8mmMauser
Sometimes you can tell if social services bureaucrats are alive. Say to them, "I am placing a large cash bribe on this side of the bed. On the other side of the bed, I am placing a box of rat droppings. Now open you eyes and try to take the bribe!"

If they reach for the money, they are in a minimally conscious state and working for the government.

684 posted on 01/28/2006 9:14:24 AM PST by T'wit (T'wit's Second Law -- There is only one form of government: too much.)
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To: 8mmMauser

God bless Haleigh Poutre! That this is reported with any frequency whatsoever as a "right to die" case is completely repulsive! Those that can't see an agenda when it is placed right in front of them are completely and willingly blind!


685 posted on 01/28/2006 9:32:48 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Wampus SC

I just read the following article about Haleigh. The first paragrah is from the article - the rest is my ranting.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/5142.html

""Currently under rehabilitation at a Brighton rehabilitation center, Haleigh is much better thanks to "her incredible will to live" as Harry Spence, commissioner of the DSS puts it. Two days earlier she responded to commands to pick up a stuffed toy of Curious George and a yellow duck. A DSS spokeswoman said of Haleigh's incredible recovery, "There's so much absolute hope now". Though Spence had been instrumental for the life support removal request, he was quick to recommend her for rehab on seeing her responsiveness. He also noted that Haleigh showed no visible signs of being in pain.""

As is stated in the above paragraph, the DSS spokesman says HALEIGH RESPONDED TO COMMANDS TO PICK UP A STUFFED TOY. This person is one of the people who wanted to kill her only a few weeks ago. Not only is she following commands, she also obviously has the ability to use her arms and hands. Haleigh was fasely diagnoised as PVS, just like Terri. Talk about a junk science term. It's a horrible way to describe a human being. The termonology should be abolished and sent back to h*ll were it came from.

The little angel was first abused by her own family, the DSS, then doctors who think they are gods, who can determine who can recover and even worse - who will live or die. Unbelievable!! I've read other articles about Haleigh. Articles that say the Governor wants to establish a panel to the review the case. I might be missing something, but I don't see where he wants to review the gross error of almost killing her by removing her feeding tube. He seems more interested in reviewing the events leading up to her brain injury, but not the almost fatal mistake of almost killing her.

Another very troubling thing - several of the articles I've read, use almost the same following words: **The governor said the state has no immediate plans to withdraw the girl's life support.** I keep looking for them to say they have NO plans to withdraw her life support (which most likely means her feeding tube). Instead they say no immediate plans or current plans. I don't like the wording they are using. IMO, they are keeping the door open to take away her food and water in the future.

I pray to God that our country wakes up and kicks the culture of death to the curb. They have gotten a huge foothold over the past several decades. Today I watched a program about Charles Lindburg on the history channel. I was shocked to hear that he supported Hitler and made several trips to Germany prior to our involvement in WWII. At the time Lindburg was part of an organization called something like America First. He was also the president of the American EUGENICS Society. The Nazis were impressed with his theories on Eugenics - the perfect race BS - and they put them into affect. It was sickening to realize Hitler got some of his ideas from people in this country.

Just this past week, at the state capital in my state, a group was gathered on the steps, shouting for their RIGHT to kill themselves. As soon as the supreme court ruled in favor of Oregon's Assisted Suicide Law, I figured it wouldn't be long before the very organized death cult, would be busy getting it approved all over the country. Gee, what did they do - wait barely a week?

And then there's Britian, our so called civilized alley, who is actively promoting the forcing of doctors to practice not only abortion, but also euthanasia. How many doctors will be forced to leave medicine because their personal values/morals/beliefs will not be allowed in the work place? How scary is that? Imagine our country's doctors being controlled by those ghoulish bio-ethics characters, who spewed their insane lunacy on our TV's during Terri's 13 days of torture.

Do you know how words are created? I've never liked the sound of the word euthanasia. The meaning is horrible, but the word itself has a sickening sound to it. That probably makes no sense, I know. Well, when I was watching the program about Lindburg and his involvemnent in eugenics, it dawned on me that it also started with the letters *EU*, just like euthanasia. Europe also has the EU too. Do you or anyone else know what the EU means? I remember some here on the Terri threads could break down the meanings of names in the past. I'm curious about this EU thing. I know it's late and this might not make sense. Not much of anything makes sense anymore. I'm also listening to Art Bell right now, as he talks to a guest about a pole shift. Up will be down and down will be up. Sounds appropriate for what's going on in the world these days. :( :(










695 posted on 01/29/2006 2:41:38 AM PST by Pepper777
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