Scott Thomas update: mom's guardianship continued!

Scott's fight website ^ | 1/3/06 | Pamela Patton

[cyn]

Pamela's guardianship renewed for another six months!  Please see "Scott's News" for more information. (continued at link)

http://scottsfight.com/Scott's%20News.htm

January 3, 2006

Today was the long-anticipated status hearing on guardianship for Scott. 

The hearing took place in judge's chambers with Pamela and her attorneys and Eliza and her attorneys.  Pamela presented the judge with information that she has now filed with the court to have Scott declared "partially capacitated".  This means, at the very least, that he would then be allowed to indicate his preferences for his social environment, such as who is allowed to visit.  He has repeatedly indicated that he does not want to see Eliza, but he does wants to see his son.  

Pamela also informed the judge that, after Scott is legally determined to be "partially capacitated",  they would be filing for a divorce for him.  [emphasis mine]

  Eliza indicated to the judge that she would fight any divorce proceedings. 

The final item that Pamela presented to the judge is that Scott is scheduled for surgery to close his tracheotomy opening, which should allow him to regain his ability to speak and make sound. 

Based on all the above information, Judge Wilkes ruled to grant Pamela another six months of full guardianship of Scott.  This will be a crucial time for Pamela and Scott, as they continue to work, not only for Scott's recovery, but for him to regain the right and ability to truly "speak for himself".

Please continue to join us in prayer and other support for Scott and Pamela as they continue the battle for LIFE.

[Dante3]

I just wonder if he is wimpy or if he just didn't give a damn and simply doesn't want to be bothered.

[Dante3]

By "he" I mean Frist.

[T'wit]

Thanks for the report. It's really scary. He could be our first Wuss-in-Chief.

[Ohioan from Florida]

C'mon, Jimmah Carter was the first!

[floriduh voter]

The elephant in the room is that Terri was NOT at the end of her life until she was tortured and murdered. They decided her life would end. Is Frist harvesting organs in his spare time or something?

[floriduh voter]

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/01/29/local/doc43dc0f2057751316335690.txt

[T'wit]

:-)

He WAS frightened by a swimming rabbit, wasn't he?

[T'wit]

>> Is Frist harvesting organs

We were just observing that he himself could use some new, um, er, orchids. I don't know if those are harvest-able. If not now, they certainly will be soon by popular demand.

[8mmMauser]

Missed by a hare.

[Wampus SC]

Hey, one of your great rants is the very thing to bring me back a while. :) Since that was a multi-subject post, here comes one of my dreaded multi-part answers.

"Another very troubling thing - several of the articles I've read, use almost the same following words: **The governor said the state has no immediate plans to withdraw the girl's life support.** I keep looking for them to say they have NO plans to withdraw her life support (which most likely means her feeding tube). Instead they say no immediate plans or current plans. I don't like the wording they are using. IMO, they are keeping the door open to take away her food and water in the future."

I noticed that wording. You're exactly right. You have to parse every word these government functionaries say, from the lowliest local flunky right up to the top. If you assume the most twisted and darkest meaning of their words reflects their true intention, you'll be right most of the time.

"At the time Lindburg was part of an organization called something like America First. He was also the president of the American EUGENICS Society. The Nazis were impressed with his theories on Eugenics - the perfect race BS - and they put them into affect. It was sickening to realize Hitler got some of his ideas from people in this country."

Yep. America has had a totalitarian undercurrent for a long time, and has teetered on the brink of totalitarianism several times. It's of the national socialist/fascist variety, because it's the type of totalitarianism one can get rich off of. I remind you of the infamous Gallup poll taken just before Pearl Harbor - amazing support level for the Axis. Anyway, like I've said before, we're not just getting euthanasia. We're getting the whole package as one civil liberty after another withers in the name of security. Anytime one branch, or one person, has unchecked power above the law, it's totalitarianism by definition. It doesn't matter what the name of the person with that kind of power is

"I've never liked the sound of the word euthanasia. The meaning is horrible, but the word itself has a sickening sound to it. That probably makes no sense, I know. Well, when I was watching the program about Lindburg and his involvemnent in eugenics, it dawned on me that it also started with the letters *EU*, just like euthanasia. Europe also has the EU too. Do you or anyone else know what the EU means?"

EU is a Greek prefix meaning "good". Euthanasia means "good death". Eugenics means approx. "good breeding". These days EU-words are usually used to make something bad sound good, as in those two examples. They're EUphemisms. :) I don't think the EU in Europe has the same meaning, but rather is an abbreviation for European Union.

"I'm also listening to Art Bell right now, as he talks to a guest about a pole shift. Up will be down and down will be up. Sounds appropriate for what's going on in the world these days. :( :("

Physical pole shift or not, the poles of right and wrong, and good and evil, have certainly shifted. Keep ranting. We need some *fire* and spirit in what we're doing.

[Wampus SC]

"A controversial view."

Lindy made his views on the subject well known and spoke often about it. Documentation on this is easy to find. What is the nature of the controversy?

"Whatever the truth of the matter, the Germans did not need or learn any lessons about Eugenics from us. The whole Nazi movement was spurred by Darwinist thought. (So was the Communist movement in Russia.)"

Margaret Sanger ring a bell?

Yep, Darwinist thought as in the philospohers of the Social Darwinism and Utilitarian schools around the turn of the century. Most of them were British and American.

Then again, totalitarianism has a long line of apologists, all the way back to Plato's Republic.

[TheSarce]

We may be over-reacting a bit to the AP article about Frist's statements-- I caught the replay of Meet the Press earlier tonight and did not think Frist was as wishy-washy as the AP article made him out to be. Let me be clear, I am not a huge fan of Frist and certainly wish he were a stronger leader, but after hearing the interview with my own ears, it's VERY clear AP cherry-picked his comments to give the impression he's repudiated his actions trying to save Terri.

Tim Russert was trying to bludgeon him over the head with Terri and Frist was STEADFAST that as a physician, he felt she was not PVS, and should be retested, and if I heard it right, he indicated he did NOT regret getting involved. Unfortunately I had a phone call in the middle of the segment and could not listen to the rest with full attention. I can't say with 100% certainty, we need to find a transcript, but I think AP has pulled a fast one here. I expected to be outraged after reading the article earlier in the day, that's specifically WHY I watched MTP, but the actual interview surprised me--Frist was standing by the effort to save Terri from what I heard.

We need to check this out more before jumping all over Frist. If Frist said what AP indicated, we need to educate him and bring him back out of the media's alternate universe on Terri, but we shouldn't unfairly excoriate him over misrepresentations by the Associated Press. "Trust but verify" is a good policy, but with the AP maybe it should be "verify, then verify again."

I am going to be extremely busy the next few days and not online much, can someone find the actual MTP transcript instead of just relying on AP?

[T'wit]

>> What is the nature of the controversy?

Quotation following is from Wikipedia, which also discusses that Lindbergh used his trips to Germany to report on the advances in German aircraft to the U.S. and British governments. He was the one American allowed to see Nazi warplanes, which gave him a unique value reporting that information. He later served as a military advisor and even flew combat missions, apparently with one kill (Pacific theater).

Because of his numerous scientific expeditions to Nazi Germany, combined with a belief in eugenics which infused much of his rhetoric, Lindbergh was tarred by many in his own time and since as a Nazi sympathizer. However, his much acclaimed and Pulitzer Prize winning biographer A. Scott Berg contends that Lindbergh was never a very politically minded figure, taking most of his cues in politics from his progressive Republican father, and that in his support for the America First Committee was merely giving voice to the heartfelt, if arguably misguided, sentiments of the majority of Americans.

The most controversial book examining Lindbergh's alleged Nazi sympathies is The American Axis, written by Holocaust researcher and investigative journalist Max Wallace, an amateur historian whose findings were labelled exaggerated in reviews in the scholarly history journals. Publishers Weekly called his book is a "highly speculative rehash" and says it fails to make its case.

[8mmMauser]

Here it is from North Country Gazette this morning,

Some Catholics are calling it premeditated murder.

Many are calling for the removal of St. Petersburg Diocese Bishop Robert N. Lynch for allowing the ceremony to occur in the diocese.

Schiavo-Centonze Marriage At Risk

8mm

(this includes Ohioan from Florida's ping list, update to 01/18.)

[Dante3]

Interesting. Very strange about Lynch - in his heart he appears not to accept Roman Catholicism.

[T'wit]

>> Margaret Sanger ring a bell?

I've not read any discussion on that, so this is a guess, but I doubt that Sanger had any great influence in Germany. Why? Because their minds were already made up. Long before Sanger came along, there was Ernst Haeckel, a darwinist disciple who is widely regarded as the leading philosopher of Naziism. Check him out here, for instance:

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/haeckel.html

Here's a comment on Haeckel from a source I am unfamiliar with except that it is obviously educated:

Haeckel's Monism and the Birth of Fascist Ideology, by New York historian Daniel Gasman, continues a theme which he has long promoted, namely that the work and thought of Haeckel in the social realm - what one might loosely refer to as German "Social Darwinism" - was the overridingly major input into the vile authoritarian ideologies of this century. Although Gasman's charge goes beyond Germany, at the heart is the claim that National Socialism - the Nazi regime - finds its chief intellectual roots and sources in the thought of Haeckel. Dictatorship, loathing of democracy, and above all deep anti-Semitism go back to the social biologizing of nineteenth-century Jena.

This is a major charge and a serious one, especially for anyone who cares about Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution. Apart from anything else, Haeckel assumed the mantel of Darwin's great German supporter - he called his position "Darwinismus" - and if Gasman's charge is well taken we seem to have a line from Down House (Darwin's home) and the Origin right through to Auschwitz and the Holocaust.

Heaven knows, there was no want of German philosophers, most of them progressive enough to walk clean off the pier. Let's not go there :-)

[8mmMauser]

Yes, sadly, that is the way it looks.

[Halls]

Well, I hope that the Pope invalidates this marriage and Jodi and Michael will have to try again in a justice of the peace!

[Dante3]

I thought the Catholic Church does not perform marriages if one partner is divorced. Jodi wanted the divorced from her first husband, Scott Blough, even though he reportedly wanted to work things out. And Michael is Lutheran.