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To: Last Visible Dog

"Seeding from another planet is a possibility. It is also possible that the other planet developed through purely materialistic evolution thus it would be ID without any God or creator or "space alien". There is no requirement for ID to name a creator because their may be no creator. There is proof our planet is seeded with meteors so the concept of a life form being injected into our system is a real possibility."

Do you not see that this begs the question? There cannot be ID without the I. A process of Abiogenesis and subsequent Evolution has no I. To be ID there has to be an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER. Any other naturally produced intelligent being cannot be the designer, because of the trail of "who designed that designer"? The only possibility is a supernatural all powerful being - God. None other makes any sense.

If I'm missing something, enlighten me.


246 posted on 01/03/2006 6:16:33 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: furball4paws
Do you not see that this begs the question?

No more than Evolution begs the questions as to how life originated and developed the ability to pass information through reproduction (which is the starting point of evolution). The TOE simply says "we don't know" when it comes to how life original and developed to the level at which evolution took over - but you claim ID begs the question as to who caused the intelligence.

There cannot be ID without the I.

But "I" is merely non-evolution type processes, not a creator or God necessarily. The "I" can come in the form of already developed forms from another materialistic evolution-based systems.

To be ID there has to be an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER.

That is not true. Design is merely the alternative to evolved (designless). These are the logical implications - not necessarily how everybody else describes ID.

264 posted on 01/03/2006 6:48:50 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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