[RobbyS]

I thank Lord Shaftesbury was among the first of the Zionists. Maybe he was one before any Jew was! That is because most religious Jews thought of the return as happening only when the Messiah came.

[wardaddy]

I know Israelis who claim some orthodox Jews don't support Israel nor do they think those Orthodox do enough for the war effort.

It's far different than many here talk about.....at times