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To: Badray
Nowadays, more people seem to care about safety, not liberty.

How much liberty will you have should the islamofacist win in the US? What rights will they guarantee you? Will you be able to worship God or only allah? Will you be able to speak out against the injustices that islam brings, or will they simply cut your head off?

It's a paradox, the question of liberty vs safety.

91 posted on 01/01/2006 7:04:22 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Do you really believe that they can defeat us?

Oh ye of little faith.

The Japanese didn't invade us because they knew that they American public would be as formidable a foe as the American military. We are an armed populace. Do you think that we'd just sit by and let them -- or any invader -- just roll over us?

Do you realize that the only proven (publically known) attack against us that was thwarted was thwarted by civilians? I know that there there are reports of 'this plan' or 'that plan' was disrupted and they might even have existed. It's to the enemy's advantage to cause fear. It's to our protective force's advantage to claim that those threats are real.

Cynical? You bet I am. Do you remember the ATF's need to be relevent about ten years ago? Do you remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? Yes. I am cynical. I do not trust my government as you do. They will protect themselves at any and all cost -- to the taxpayer.


100 posted on 01/01/2006 8:57:05 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board can be as dangerous to liberty as a gun.)
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To: pbrown
It's a paradox, the question of liberty vs safety.

I don't see the paradox, as I detailed in #58.

109 posted on 01/02/2006 2:31:27 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum." - They Live)
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To: pbrown
How much liberty will you have should the islamofacist win in the US? What rights will they guarantee you?

What kind of insanity would lead a person to believe that the jihadis can win in the US? How much liberty will you have should winged pigs win in the US?

243 posted on 01/02/2006 3:45:32 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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