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Leak in Domestic Spy Program Investigated [“ ...could reach high into the White House”]
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 31, 2005 | By Josh Meyer

Posted on 12/31/2005 5:05:34 AM PST by johnny7

The Justice Department inquiry could extend into all branches of the federal government

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department disclosed Friday that it was investigating who had leaked classified information about President Bush's top-secret domestic spying program — paving the way for a potentially contentious criminal probe that could reach high into the White House, Congress and the courts. Several U.S. officials familiar with the investigation — which is in its infancy — said it would be conducted by FBI agents trained in probing national security and counterintelligence matters.

The officials said the investigation would focus primarily on disclosures in the New York Times that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to conduct surveillance on people in the U.S. without getting warrants from a special federal court established to approve them.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doj; dojprobe; homelandsecurity; leaks; nsa; spying
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To: johnny7; MNJohnnie; All
WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES

161 posted on 12/31/2005 9:04:19 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Pukin Dog
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the "Investigation" prolly started the same day the WhiteHouse learned about the leak and Slimes wanting to print the story... Indictments are Imminent.
162 posted on 12/31/2005 9:10:02 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: OrioleFan
From the Mission Statement page of NSA ---- [highlighting is mine]

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The Information Assurance mission provides the solutions, products, and services, and conducts defensive information operations, to achieve information assurance for information infrastructures critical to U.S. national security interests.

The foreign signals intelligence or SIGINT mission allows for an effective, unified organization and control of all the foreign signals collection and processing activities of the United States. NSA is authorized to produce SIGINT in accordance with objectives, requirements, and priorities established by the Director of Central Intelligence with the advice of the National Foreign Intelligence Board.

163 posted on 12/31/2005 9:14:27 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World and the media is not on our side.)
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To: McGavin999
Image hosted by Photobucket.com leak... they call this a LEAK??? last time there was a leak like this... Noah built hiself a boat!!!
164 posted on 12/31/2005 9:51:31 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: johnny7

Since there's no doubt that the leaker(s) will be identified, I wonder if they'll step forward themselves...with the whistleblower defense. Sort of a pre-emptive strike?


165 posted on 12/31/2005 9:52:51 AM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Happy New Year!)
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To: Crawdad
The left has set up their own defense. The more anti-Bush they have been, the stronger their defense that this is a purge will be, and the weakness Bush has exhibited in not responding to their repeated attacks over the past will doom this investigation and prevent justice from being served.

I hate to have to agree with both of you, but I can't expect the Republicans to grow a pair or Bush to stop appeasing since the pattern has been set from Day # 1 by this administration. I would love to see them prove us wrong, but I am a realist.

166 posted on 12/31/2005 9:54:15 AM PST by penowa
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
The person who leaked this know that they are not covered by whistleblower protection.

A whistleblower must also limit the disclosure to a member of Congress or staff of the executive or legislative branch holding the appropriate security clearance and authorized to receive the information disclosed. Federal

167 posted on 12/31/2005 9:59:48 AM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: johnny7
The New York Times reported Dec. 16 that beginning shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush authorized the National Security Agency to intercept and monitor international telephone calls and e-mails of people in the U.S.

By law, the NSA is largely prohibited from conducting such domestic surveillance, and it is supposed to get permission in each specific case from a secret tribunal of federal judges formed under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Were they international or domestic? Or are they both? And does it make a difference? Inquiring minds want to know.

168 posted on 12/31/2005 10:02:41 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Pukin Dog
I think it is the Senator who wants to be President, but cant win as a Democrat, and wont win as a Republican either...

Hagel fits the description as well...and he sits on the Intelligence Committee. Interestingly enough he's also a member of the Committee on Foreign Relations...the one that gave Bolton such a hard time. It was during those hearings that I first remember charges that Bolton had requested/ordered information on US citizen conversations with foreign governments (through NSA). Nuts like Wayne Madsen have been alleging this abuse for a long time now...going back to the bugging of UN Security Council members (remember that charge in the run-up to the war in Iraq)?

169 posted on 12/31/2005 10:12:08 AM PST by Dolphy
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Was digging for construction of the term "communication intelligence" and came across the Senate hearings from 1975. The current NSA issue resembles the SHAMROCK telecommunications interception program which operated from the 1940's until the 1970's.

http://cryptome.org/nsa-4th.htm
http://cryptome.org/nsa-4th-p2.htm

170 posted on 12/31/2005 10:13:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lurker

Agree completely. Rockefeller has the loosest lips ever.


171 posted on 12/31/2005 10:16:55 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: johnny7

Oh, boy, they can't wait to impeach you know who. They'll take a close look at Barney and Beazie, too. Having four legs and a tail doesn't mean you aren't a 'leaker'. (Sorry, guys.)


172 posted on 12/31/2005 10:19:40 AM PST by hershey
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To: maica; McGavin999
This is a link to a .pdf of the letter that was sent to Senators Roberts and Rockefeller, and Congressmen Hockstra and Harmon of the Intelligence Committees on Dec 22. by William E Moschella, Assistant Attorney General

Link to the same letter in HTML form with links to most of the cited cases ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545787/posts

173 posted on 12/31/2005 10:19:48 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lizarde

It's quite clear that they want us to be attacked again. What's bad for the country is good for the Dems, in their heart of hearts.


174 posted on 12/31/2005 10:20:04 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the link.


175 posted on 12/31/2005 10:27:07 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World and the media is not on our side.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
By law, the NSA is largely prohibited from conducting such domestic surveillance, and it is supposed to get permission in each specific case from a secret tribunal of federal judges formed under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Why draw the line there? If both ends of a terrorist communication are located inside the US, the limited surveillance would be ineffective.

Were they international or domestic? Or are they both? And does it make a difference? Inquiring minds want to know.

Reports resemble this ...

Since 2002, the agency has been conducting some warrantless eavesdropping on people in the United States who are linked, even if indirectly, to suspected terrorists through the chain of phone numbers and e-mail addresses, according to several officials who know of the operation. Under the special program, the agency monitors their international communications, the officials said. The agency, for example, can target phone calls from someone in New York to someone in Afghanistan.

Warrants are still required for eavesdropping on entirely domestic-to-domestic communications, those officials say, meaning that calls from that New Yorker to someone in California could not be monitored without first going to the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Court.

http://cryptome.org/nsa-spied-us.htm


176 posted on 12/31/2005 10:27:56 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: mware

Speak of the devil, Daschle was on cable last night, MSNBC I think. Hmmm.


177 posted on 12/31/2005 10:27:57 AM PST by hershey
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To: All
I need some help with this FReep, the Du'er are winning.

http://info.detnews.com/poll/result.cfm?topic=Spy_program_whistleblower&va=yes

The Justice Department is investigating whether classified information about the secret domestic eavesdropping program was unlawfully disclosed to the New York Times. Are those who leaked this information villains or heroes in your eyes?

Villains 46.84%

Heroes 53.16%

179 posted on 12/31/2005 10:29:53 AM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: DejaJude

Sounds like the NYTimes is trying to hide behind numbers....saying 'nearly a dozen' current and former officials were their sources. If so many thought it was a good idea to leak national security secrets then it's okay. (Nobody in his right mind would buy that argument.)


180 posted on 12/31/2005 10:32:15 AM PST by hershey
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