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To: napscoordinator

I know - Prager is Jewish, though, and speaks usually using the Judeo-Christian tradition as a basis.

I think the old Jewish law, in the broadest sense, makes a lot of sense when it comes to divorce. And by that I only mean recognizing the wisdom in no-fault divorce as the best, thought not perfect, practical approach to handling marriages that go sour.

Prager considers divorce a tragedy, but not a catastrophe. I'm inclinded to agree with that. It's an unfortunate fact of life that some people will be saddled with people who either are or develop into poor spouses.

Only a genuinely sick individual sees some sort of social value in forcing two people who can't stand each other to remain together. It makes no sense. Indeed, I have no idea why this idea is considered 'conservative' in any way, since there is nothing conservative about it.


144 posted on 12/30/2005 2:10:12 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY
Only a genuinely sick individual sees some sort of social value in forcing two people who can't stand each other to remain together.
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God wants us to stay together in spite of the fact that we do and will get sick of each other, I'm pretty sure of that. I think that's what He said. And He wants us to have lots of children also. Like 10 or more, than we won't have time to argue about the piddly stuff in life. We will be busy raising the next generation that will give glory and service toward Him.

The TV shows of the last 40 years have warped our minds into believing life is like high school, one big crush after another - oh the thrill of it.
154 posted on 12/30/2005 2:33:53 PM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: HitmanNY
It's an unfortunate fact of life that some people will be saddled with people who either are or develop into poor spouses.

I agree with a lot of what you are posting, but I wanted to point out the part in bold. We aren't "saddled with" someone, we CHOOSE them. The hope, of course, is that we will make a good choice. Sometimes people make poor choices and sometimes people change in ways that we could not anticipate.

I don't insist that everyone stay married no matter how miserable they are. I would like people to understand that there are cycles to marriage, and sometimes just waiting things out and making more effort to be nice to each other can get you through a slumpy period.

Part of the reason we get married is to experience deep love and intimacy. Many people never get there because they cut and run when things aren't fun anymore. They don't seem to realize that if they make the effort to work it through, (many times) they will be rewarded tremendously with more love, respect and trust. My husband and I have gone through some VERY rough times in our marriage and some rough times in life. Today, I love and appreciate my husband a hundred times more than I did when we married 15 years ago.

It is impossible to do this without both spouses being somewhat willing to stick it out, or at least too apathetic to leave. People seem to have no hope at all that things CAN be different. That makes me sad.

180 posted on 12/30/2005 5:09:54 PM PST by Dianna
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To: HitmanNY

Answering your next post, I would not feel like this guy was a bad person necessarily if he would not speak like the moral compass about issues. I find that most conservatives do find divorce a conservative issue as it deals with many ideals that people have. However, I am not inclind to agree with the statement about forcing people to stick together.
This whole thing just sounds so libertarian.


213 posted on 12/31/2005 12:06:30 AM PST by napscoordinator
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