[Final Authority]

Didn't many voters of the Nazi party vote to prevent the intrusion of the communist party?

The fact that the Catholic party opposed the permissive sexual breakdown, as no doubt they did, did not exclude the Nazi's from also opposing it.

The fact is, and we can agree on this, as was the intent of the question at the outset, and the intent of my posting this thread, who desires gun confiscation? Leftists only? Or, those who wish to impose a tyranny on the governed while preventing them from redressing it?

As I wrote earlier, and we may disagree on some understanding of what we believe to be facts, but the issue of invoking Nazi's (as it seems always to bring out self proclaimed experts) wasn't intended to make a case for something, but to make one think about the issue and to consider all of the possibilities, and to prevent conceptualizing simple solutions to difficult problems that we may regret.

[Badray]

Don't confuse ideology with the form of government, though it is easy to do.

If you force me to do ______ or deny me the right to do _______ you are totalitarian. If I am free to choose for myself whether or not I do _________, then the government is limited in its powers and the people are free(r).

It doesn't matter so much what _______ is as much as the government's role, or mine, in it.

The scales goes from left to right with the left being more government to the extreme on the far right with no government. Conservatives typically support that darned middle of the road position of limited constitutional government where individual liberty is maximized and rights are protected.

No need to get fancier than that.