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To: Final Authority
In fact, if one takes the time to research the history leading up to the Nazi movement, the movement began as a alternative to the rise of communism in the east and the permissive and liberal government within Germany.

The movement began as a grab for power in Germany.

The movement utilized every strand of leftist ideology there was in 1920s Germany - Marxism (through their openly socialist program), Darwinistic scientific racism, anticlericalism, euthanasia, naturism, etc.

if it was "progressive" the Nazis embraced it.

Things the Nazis opposed: the monarchy, traditional Christianity, traditional sexual morals, free enterprise, etc.

Everything Americans in the 21st century consider conservative is directly opposed to Nazism.

An American southerner who: believes that faith in Jesus Christ is a more important of one's value than their nationality, insists of private ownership of firearms, supports free enterprise and trade, supports Israel doggedly, was enraged at the murder of Terri Schiavo, finds environmentalism weird and counterproductive, despises occultism and Darwinism, etc. is considered the archetype of the American conservative. The nazis despised such people.

A doctrinaire environmentalist who hates Israel, opposes private gun ownership, hates free enterprise, mocks American culture in favor of European and scoffs at traditional Christianity is extremely close, ideologically, to the Nazis.

118 posted on 12/28/2005 1:00:09 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
You are wrong about Nazi's opposing traditional morals. A subset of the movement (the tyrannical leadership) certainly did and that is why the atrocities took place, but the so-called, rank and file Nazi was disgusted by the permissive sexual breakdown during the '20s in their culture and voted for the party in opposition to the liberal culture of the time.

BTW, there was free enterprise in Germany during the war. There was competition for supplying the weapons of war and that competition is what made those weapons so well intended for such purposes. Germany, however, couldn't produce such weapons in quantities needed to be victorious.

Overall, attempting to indirectly equate the present to the Nazi's most always does disservice to the situation in the present and what should be known about the rise and fall of the Nazi's. It is more complicated than that. We shouldn't lump all of those of certain traits into the Nazi bin because you may be called one next, and the Nazi's were and are too important an historical fact to not examine exclusively.
133 posted on 12/28/2005 1:16:59 PM PST by Final Authority
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