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To: Final Authority
Just wondering... because there is one side of current debates that want to see the nuance of everything rather than the cold hard facts.

The fact is that the Nazis were socialists. Forget the nuance and the people they were supposedly a reaction to. Look at their policies, look at their methods, look at their actions and you see a totalitarian, socialist worldview which stifles the individual for the benefit of the collective hive. They may fight other socialists as our own home-bred brethren do but that is simply a fight for control. They aren't so addle-brained as to not understand that someone gets to be on top of the ponzi-scheme and if it isn't them then their view will be like all of the following dogs of the sled team.

You are not known entirely by your enemy list--socialists hate themselves and others and Muslims fight everyone. You are known for what you believe. The Nazis were socialists using fascist means of control and the Muslims follow the same model to the same end--totalitarianism.

112 posted on 12/28/2005 12:47:58 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: pgyanke

The Nazi's may have been socialist but they were other things to people as well. They were "nationalists" who are often considered conservative as they intend to "conserve" the fabric of the nation. You are correct in saying that they were totalitarian, but one can be totalitarian without being socialist and socialist without being totalitarian. Therefore, it also goes to reason that one can be totalitarian under a different base system of government as well.

The answer to the question that I was attempting to elicit, not that Nazi's are socialist, liberal, or not, is that those who wish to confiscate guns are tyrannical and often totalitarian by their means, as the governed with guns makes it impossible to impose such tyranny as the totalitarians wish to enjoy.


120 posted on 12/28/2005 1:03:29 PM PST by Final Authority
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